Rick Warren Promotes Harry Potter

[ShotGunWillie]

I'm sure the prospective members who have had to go through a membership course disagree with that insinuation.

No, he doesn't wear a suit.

No, he doesn't preach from the King James.

No, he doesn't pattern his worship services after the 1950s.

But he does preach the gospel. I've heard some of his sermons.

The gospel must be hidden, because it isn't there, neither does it lie within the churches mission statement.

They take you as you are, you come in as you are and you leave as your are. You don't need to change, the church will conform to fit your needs. That's the way it is, they offer all 31 flavors of worship, pick what you like and what you want.

No, he doesn't wear a suit

No, he doesn't preach from a Bible, nor does he fancy a certain "translation", he generally choses a paraphrase Bible or whatever Bible he decides makes his points the best. Remember, he doesn't like doctrine (2Tim4:3). That's what he says.

No, he doesn't pattern his worship services after the 1950s, he doesn't have worship services, unless they are glorifying him.

 

[webdog]

So, you think the articles are lying, or you don't understand the concept of primary sources?

The OP didn't quote RW...so it wasn't a "primary source". An article can take quotes out of context turning them into lies.

 

[Bro. Williams]

That's not what I meant. I misread your comment.

My humble apologies.

Thank you, no apology needed. I was just trying to work out the confusion.

 

[webdog]

The source of the article is his website son. Good grief.

RW's website is NOT the website in the OP, son.

 

[Rufus_1611]

The OP didn't quote RW...so it wasn't a "primary source". An article can take quotes out of context turning them into lies.

Here ya go...

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling. Though the seventh and final installment is yet to be released (July 21, to be exact), when it does, it will be well-worth reading. Though some would disagree, I am one to put Rowling's work in the camp of fantasy literature, along with Lewis and Tolkien, with her use of magic more mechanical than occultic. I found her earlier six volumes instant classics of the genre, and the final book will undoubtedly cement this series as among the best written. (Source: http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ID=316&ArtID=10674)

 

[webdog]

He is not anyone that I would lie about, he pretty much is a great problem in the church today.

...and you've lied about him.

He wants to remove doctrine from the church. No one at his church carries Bibles, but they dang sure tote a copy of PDL or PDC.

Here is another one!

These are things he says often times in interviews, because he is annointed.

Provide a direct source...in context...or you have yet lied again.

 

[Bro. Williams]

As long as you are comfortable answering to God about it...

More comfortable than you should be, thinking that deciever is of God.

 

[webdog]

Here ya go...

Your link doesn't work.

 

[Steven2006]

I am not a fan of Warren's, but I decided to actually go to his web site and take five minuets to check the archive for that issue. Just to keep the discussion honest, those opinions were from James Emery White. They are not the words of Warren himself, even though it was supplied on his letter. This is a copy of the bottom of the letter, you can see the links that were on the bottom of it. If you followed the link to Recommended reading you would have seen the review.

pastors.com / Ministry Toolbox / Issue #316 - Home


Issue #316
6/20/2007

(These are the links)



Pray for your preaching - Joe McKeever

Teaching about sex from the pulpit - Ted Roberts

Teaching on workplace issues - Corey Cleek

How to teach with parables (like Jesus did) - D. Bruce Seymour

Recommended reading - James Emery White

17 ways to find volunteer youth workers - Doug Fields

The inherited church - Randall Adams

Strive for greatness: Take charge of your wants - Mary Southerland

 

[webdog]

More comfortable than you should be, thinking that deciever is of God.

Doesn't carry much weight, coming from a KJVO

 

[StefanM]

http://www.saddleback.com/flash/believe2.html

ABOUT ETERNITY
Man was created to exist forever. He will either exist eternally separated from God by sin, or in union with God through forgiveness and salvation. To be eternally separated from God is Hell. To be eternally in union with Him is eternal life. Heaven and Hell are places of eternal existence.
John 3:16; John 2:25; John 5:11-13; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:15; 1 John 5:11-12; Matthew 25:31-46




ABOUT JESUS CHRIST
Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is co-equal with the Father. Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all men by dying on a cross. He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death. He ascended to Heaven´s glory and will return again to earth to reign as King of kings, and Lord of lords.
Matthew 1:22,23; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-5, 14:10-30; Hebrews 4:14,15; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; Romans 1:3,4; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:14,15; Titus 2:13




ABOUT SALVATION
Salvation is a gift from God to man. Man can never make up for his sin by self-improvement or good works. Only by trusting in Jesus Christ as God´s offer of forgiveness can man be saved from sin´s penalty. Eternal life begins the moment one receives Jesus Christ into his life by faith.
Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8,9; John 14:6, 1:12; Titus 3:5; Galatians 3:26; Romans 5:1




ABOUT THE BIBLE
The Bible is God´s word to all men. It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living. Because it is inspired by God, it is truth without any mixture of error.
2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20,21; 2 Timothy 1:13; Psalm 119:105,160, 12:6; Proverbs 30:5)

 

[ShotGunWillie]

Will do, give me a minute, there is a bunch of source material on this wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[webdog]

I am not a fan of Warren's, but I decided to actually go to his web site and take five minuets to check the archive for that issue. Just to keep the discussion honest, those opinions were from James Emery White. They are not the words of Warren himself, even though it was supplied on his letter. This is a copy of the bottom of the letter, you can see the links that were on the bottom of it. If you followed the link to Recommended reading you would have seen the review.

pastors.com / Ministry Toolbox / Issue #316 - Home


Issue #316
6/20/2007

(These are the links)



Pray for your preaching - Joe McKeever

Teaching about sex from the pulpit - Ted Roberts

Teaching on workplace issues - Corey Cleek

How to teach with parables (like Jesus did) - D. Bruce Seymour

Recommended reading - James Emery White

17 ways to find volunteer youth workers - Doug Fields

The inherited church - Randall Adams

Strive for greatness: Take charge of your wants - Mary Southerland

You don't mean the KJVO, er...the anti RW crowd was dishonest, now, do you! I'm shocked!

 

[Bro. Williams]

More like Rome Beauty and Fuji.

Man, I really like Fuji, but I like "pink crisps" better (also called pink ladies?).

 

[preachinjesus]

Well for starters...who cares, seriously guys stop throwing rocks and start doing some actual ministry...

Also, here's the article in question:
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ID=316&ArtID=10674

As aforementioned it isn't written by Pastor Warren, but James Emery White and is a FINE article. I recommend it for your reading.

Come on now though, let's stop getting our noses bent out of shape and trying hard to bring down effective ministries and start doing our own ministries effectively.

This is a silly accusation.

 

[webdog]

Well for starters...who cares, seriously guys stop throwing rocks and start doing some actual ministry...

Also, here's the article in question:
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ID=316&ArtID=10674

As aforementioned it isn't written by Pastor Warren, but James Emery White and is a FINE article. I recommend it for your reading.

Come on now though, let's stop getting our noses bent out of shape and trying hard to bring down effective ministries and start doing our own ministries effectively.

This is a silly accusation.

Amen! These ugly thread rear their ugly heads every couple of months.

 

[webdog]

Will do, give me a minute, there is a bunch of source material on this wolf in sheep's clothing.

With this remark, I'm sure your "findings" will be "unbiased" for sure

 

[Bro. Williams]

The OP didn't quote RW...so it wasn't a "primary source". An article can take quotes out of context turning them into lies.

The article is referencing a primary source, son. I didn't say the article is a primary source. Get a grip.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Well for starters...who cares, seriously guys stop throwing rocks and start doing some actual ministry...

What are you talking about? Some of us are working very hard to warn folks of the dangers inherent in being amused by witchcraft. The Bible is very clear on such matters and yet we have one of the most well known "pastors" of our day, an SBC Baptist no less, promoting witchcraft on his website.

Also, here's the article in question:
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ID=316&ArtID=10674

As aforementioned it isn't written by Pastor Warren, but James Emery White and is a FINE article. I recommend it for your reading.

Correct, the author is White, the website is Warren's. If Rick Warren is in favor of the Bible and opposed to witchcraft he'll edit Emery's recommendation.

Come on now though, let's stop getting our noses bent out of shape and trying hard to bring down effective ministries and start doing our own ministries effectively.

Effective at what?

This is a silly accusation.

 

[Bro. Williams]

Doesn't carry much weight, coming from a KJVO

oooh, that was quick!

Ecclesiastes 8:4 Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?

Maybe you have never met a king!