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Rick Warren Promotes Harry Potter

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npetreley

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Rufus_1611 said:
"Lookit here son, I say son, did ya see that hawk after those hens? He scared 'em! That Rhode Island Red turned white. Then blue. Rhode Island. Red, white, and blue. That's a joke, son. A flag waver. You're built too low. The fast ones go over your head. Ya got a hole in your glove. I keep pitchin' 'em and you keep missin' 'em. Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball. Eye. Ball. I almost had a gag, son. Joke, that is." - Foghorn Lehorn
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Rufus T Firefly, you're my hero. Anyone who can quote a looney tunes cartoon is OK in my book.
 
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dan e.

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ShotGunWillie said:
Is this because you have made your points and now you wish to no longer discuss this topic?
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as if you were "discussing"??!!

Maybe we can change the tone of this thread. I'm entering back into it after this comment. Let's start from the beginning and "discuss".
 
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ShotGunWillie

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"Rebuking and reproving" does not give us the right to call names. RW is someone's pastor. My cousin lost her two day-old baby. Her husband is not a believer (she became one just a couple of years ago). RW came to see their family, prayed with them, and checked up on them. I'm sure he's screwed up on occasion, just like you and me. But he is a man of God, and you have no right to use perjoratives against him. I've asked you not to a few times, and this has been ignored. Keep in mind: you are slandering another person's pastor...one who was instrumental in leading a family member of mine to Christ. Your speech in this matter is not God-honoring.
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I am saying the man is not caring nor compassionate, I believe Rick Warren might have at one time had good intentions, but I think he is too busy bringing the world religions together to build up churches and the attendance to really be too concerned about souls.

RW is concerned about attendance, you can find all of that on his website, he isn't concerned with Jesus Christ and leading the lost to the Lord, he is concerned about church growth. Point blank that is it. It doesn't shock me that he word support a book inspired by a woman possessed by demons, does not shock me in the least.

If he openly oposes something he will lose members in his congregation (see Joel Olsteen) so instead of calling sin, sin, he side steps, brushes it off, not to offend, but to keep the members pleased and pouring in. See, if he doesn't lead his flock the way God intends for a true shepherd to lead, then he is no shepherd at all, he is simply misleading the masses and will be answer for every soul that stumbles.

I don't doubt the salvation of your relative. I don't think it was RW's preaching that lead her to Christ, I think it was the drawing of the Holy Spirit calling her to Christ. RW just asked her to come to church.
 
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Rufus_1611

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dan e. said:
as if you were "discussing"??!!

Maybe we can change the tone of this thread. I'm entering back into it after this comment. Let's start from the beginning and "discuss".
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Excellent recommendation. If I may some questions for discussion...

  • Is witchcraft a sin according to The Holy Bible?
  • Does Harry Potter contain elements of witchcraft unsuitable for people, much less Christians, or is it just harmless fantasy?
  • If a pastor allows someone else to recommend a witchcraft or fantasy witchcraft book on his website, is he (the pastor) responsible for promoting something that is sinful?

...let's omit any references to wolves or Phelps from this dialogue, focus entirely on the subject matter and then perhaps, it will be less heated.
 
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dan e.

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Although Rick Warren is the topic of a lot of this, it is really about Harry Potter. Someone has already recommended the book on this thread, but nobody replied to his comments.

Let's talk about this: Is Harry Potter appropriate for Christians? I personally have not read the book, and I thought one of the movies was too boring to finish; I have no idea which one. Probably an earlier one since the actors were all little kids. I know a lot of Christians who don't have a problem with reading this kind of fantasy. I wouldn't be interested anyways...not a fan of fantasy. I do see the dangers. Okay everyone...let's "discuss".

The thread is back on track.
 
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ShotGunWillie

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If a pastor openly advocates something demonic in nature, whether fantasy, reality based, no matter, if the subject line and the very nature of the film is against God, by basis of witchcraft, what does that say about the pastor.

Sticking with the OP, RW advocating reading HP book. He approves what is on his newsletter so I am going to assume he openly advocates reading the Harry Potter book.
 
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Rebellion is as bad as Witchcraft, and some of you guys that want to come on a board and publically condemn a brother in Christ and call him names like "slick rick" are rebellious to Matthew 18.. and to Christ himself...

Please close the thread....

This hateful attitude towards a brother in Christ is sickening.. and some should be ashamed of themselves....
 
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Rufus_1611

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npetreley said:
Rufus T Firefly, you're my hero. Anyone who can quote a looney tunes cartoon is OK in my book.
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I'm partial to Foghorn as it was one of my many baseball nicknames (I'm a red-head and, on the rare occasions I pitched, our catcher said I looked like a rooster...kids can be so cruel :tear: ;) )
 
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Rufus_1611

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tinytim said:
Rebellion is as bad as Witchcraft, and some of you guys that want to come on a board and publically condemn a brother in Christ and call him names like "slick rick" are rebellious to Matthew 18.. and to Christ himself...

Please close the thread....

This hateful attitude towards a brother in Christ is sickening.. and some should be ashamed of themselves....
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Stop your whining and get on topic...we've already covered this.
 
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Bro. Williams

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Rufus_1611 said:
Excellent recommendation. If I may some questions for discussion...

  • Is witchcraft a sin according to The Holy Bible?
  • Does Harry Potter contain elements of witchcraft unsuitable for people, much less Christians, or is it just harmless fantasy?
  • If a pastor allows someone else to recommend a witchcraft or fantasy witchcraft book on his website, is he (the pastor) responsible for promoting something that is sinful?

...let's omit any references to wolves or Phelps from this dialogue, focus entirely on the subject matter and then perhaps, it will be less heated.
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Rufus_1611: Becuase I respect you and yours I will stand down on the wolf thing... for the moment.

1. Yes, it is a sin.
2. If it contains witchcraft is a form portrayed as positive or anyway against the negative truth shed on it from scripture, then yes it is unsuitable to the point of sinfullnes.
3. Am I responsible for what my children and wife wear, watch, see, listen to, etc. Yes I am, then so is the pastor.
 
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npetreley

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Although Rick Warren is the topic of a lot of this, it is really about Harry Potter. Someone has already recommended the book on this thread, but nobody replied to his comments.

Let's talk about this: Is Harry Potter appropriate for Christians? I personally have not read the book, and I thought one of the movies was too boring to finish; I have no idea which one. Probably an earlier one since the actors were all little kids. I know a lot of Christians who don't have a problem with reading this kind of fantasy. I wouldn't be interested anyways...not a fan of fantasy. I do see the dangers. Okay everyone...let's "discuss".

The thread is back on track.
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I have no interest in Harry Potter. I find the plots very boring and predictable. My kids like the books. I don't mind that they read them. They know that God considers witchcraft to be abominable, and they aren't the least bit interested in real witchcraft just because they read the books. I would not recommend the books to anyone, and I question why RW would recommend them. But I wouldn't tell anyone to avoid the books unless they were already predisposed to getting involved in the occult or something.
 
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dan e.

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Perfect. Good job guys. You got it out of your system in a relatively civilized manner.

Now I'm suggesting all who disagree with them to not bother. Let's close the thread. You got your opinion out, no use giving anyone else's.

Now that its off your chest get over it and move on.
 
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Bro. Williams

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dan e. said:
Although Rick Warren is the topic of a lot of this, it is really about Harry Potter. Someone has already recommended the book on this thread, but nobody replied to his comments.

Let's talk about this: Is Harry Potter appropriate for Christians? I personally have not read the book, and I thought one of the movies was too boring to finish; I have no idea which one. Probably an earlier one since the actors were all little kids. I know a lot of Christians who don't have a problem with reading this kind of fantasy. I wouldn't be interested anyways...not a fan of fantasy. I do see the dangers. Okay everyone...let's "discuss".

The thread is back on track.
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I ignored the post by that person as unscriptual and off the main topic, iow, I don't need thier opinion on a book review that i ain't gonna read anyhows.

Onto your questions.
1. no
 
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Rufus_1611

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dan e. said:
Perfect. Good job guys. You got it out of your system in a relatively civilized manner.

Now I'm suggesting all who disagree with them to not bother. Let's close the thread. You got your opinion out, no use giving anyone else's.

Now that its off your chest get over it and move on.
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Why this obsession with closing the thread? If it bothers you...move on.
 
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