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Robertson suggests God smote Sharon

faithgirl46...

uh like who is Jesus To chase the money changers in the temple away and to call people snakes

uh like who is David to kill Goliath and then chop his head off and hold it in front of the Palestinians as an example

uh like who is Elisha to show judgment on the rebellious children

uh like who is Elijah to prophesy that the dogs would lick Jezebel's blood.

in other words (on top of my sarcasm): poor statement
 
Pat never said that Sharon deserved it but that because of his actions God may have judged him. Be careful not to twist facts to suit your own agenda and opinions.
 

LadyEagle

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Eliyahu, Sharon is a Jew, and the Jews reject scripture, choosing instead to accept only the OT sans the NT.
The land promises are in the OT for the record. See Mosaic and Abrahamic Covenants for further documentation.
 

carpro

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Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
Pat never said that Sharon deserved it but that because of his actions God may have judged him.
Robertson should know better.
 
Originally posted by carpro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
Pat never said that Sharon deserved it but that because of his actions God may have judged him.
Robertson should know better. </font>[/QUOTE]He does know...that's why he made a Biblically true statement.

It's a shame that you don't know. God will bless those that bless Israel and Curse those who curse Israel.

Why is it so hard for people to realize that simplistic, very evident truth?!

I guarantee that if God send the Angel of the Lord to kill another 185,000...people still wouldn't believe it and would write it off as something foolish.

Study Israel's short but deeply intriguing modern history since she's become a nation. Study the wars (from an economic and military view point) and see God's divine hand of Providence upon the Apple of His Eye.

It will amaze you.

P.S. you probably won't learn that at the communist/pro palestinian/anti american/anti christian/anti jew universities. "sadly"
 

carpro

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Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by carpro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
Pat never said that Sharon deserved it but that because of his actions God may have judged him.
Robertson should know better. </font>[/QUOTE]He does know...that's why he made a Biblically true statement.

It's a shame that you don't know. God will bless those that bless Israel and Curse those who curse Israel.

Why is it so hard for people to realize that simplistic, very evident truth?!

I guarantee that if God send the Angel of the Lord to kill another 185,000...people still wouldn't believe it and would write it off as something foolish.

Study Israel's short but deeply intriguing modern history since she's become a nation. Study the wars (from an economic and military view point) and see God's divine hand of Providence upon the Apple of His Eye.

It will amaze you.

P.S. you probably won't learn that at the communist/pro palestinian/anti american/anti christian/anti jew universities. "sadly"
</font>[/QUOTE]So you subscribe to the theory that bad things happen to people because of sin in their life.?

Are you Jewish?
 

carpro

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136361024681&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

EXCERPT

Most, but not all, heed call to prayer


Matthew Wagner, THE JERUSALEM POST Jan. 6, 2006

Rabbis were split Thursday on whether to pray for the speedy recovery of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Both chief rabbis called on the public to pray for Sharon. Rabbi Shlomo Amar led a special prayer for the prime minister during a rabbinic conference near Zichron Ya'acov.

However, Rabbi Shmuel Eliahu, Chief Rabbi of Safed and son of former Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliahu, said it was forbidden to pray for something one did not really believe in.

"If you fear that Sharon will continue to cause pain to Jewish families if he recovers, don't pray for him," said Eliahu in response to a question from a settler who was evacuated from Gaza. The question and answer appeared on Moriya, a religious Zionist Internet site.

The settler asked Eliahu if he had to pray for Sharon, as requested by the Chief Rabbinate, even if the prayers would be ingenuous.

"Do I have to lie? Should I pray, God forbid, that he dies?" asked the settler.

Eliahu answered that one should not pray for Sharon's demise, but at the same time it was forbidden to be ingenuous in prayer.
"If you really want Sharon to continue to lead this country, pray for him. But if you fear that if Sharon recovers he will continue to hurt, don't pray for him. Or pray that he will recover but will remain on his ranch."

In more right-wing national religious schools, such as Beit Shulamit, a girls' high school in Jerusalem headed by Rabbi Avigdor Halevi Nebenzahl, rabbi of Jerusalem's Old City, students were advised not to pray for Sharon's recovery.

"They did not tell us to pray that Sharon should die," said a Beit Shulamit student. "But they also said that after all Sharon has done against Jews in Gaza and Samaria it was not appropriate to pray for his recovery."
 

KenH

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Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
that's why he made a Biblically true statement.
Not all Christians agree with Robertson's and your eschatological viewpoint.
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Originally posted by OldRegular:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
Robertson is a heretic. Who cares what he thinks?

Joseph Botwinick
You are quick to call people heretics. Just how is Robertson a heretic? </font>[/QUOTE]He is part of the Word of Faith movement. This doctrine is herey. He is, therefore, a heretic.

Joseph Botwinick
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
Israel is the Apple in God's eye and judgment does come to those that seek to harm it or make the Jews give up their land.
Nobody made Israel give up any land. The majority of Israelis supported, and indeed, encouraged, the Gaza pullout.

Joseph Botwinick
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
faithgirl46...

uh like who is Jesus To chase the money changers in the temple away and to call people snakes
He is God the Son. Pat is a Word of Faith Heretic.

uh like who is David to kill Goliath and then chop his head off and hold it in front of the Palestinians as an example

uh like who is Elisha to show judgment on the rebellious children

uh like who is Elijah to prophesy that the dogs would lick Jezebel's blood.

in other words (on top of my sarcasm): poor statement
[/QUOTE]

All of these folks were servants of the Lord.

Pat is a Word of Faith Heretic.

Joseph Botwinick
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Originally posted by carpro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by carpro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fundamentalist1611:
Pat never said that Sharon deserved it but that because of his actions God may have judged him.
Robertson should know better. </font>[/QUOTE]He does know...that's why he made a Biblically true statement.

It's a shame that you don't know. God will bless those that bless Israel and Curse those who curse Israel.

Why is it so hard for people to realize that simplistic, very evident truth?!

I guarantee that if God send the Angel of the Lord to kill another 185,000...people still wouldn't believe it and would write it off as something foolish.

Study Israel's short but deeply intriguing modern history since she's become a nation. Study the wars (from an economic and military view point) and see God's divine hand of Providence upon the Apple of His Eye.

It will amaze you.

P.S. you probably won't learn that at the communist/pro palestinian/anti american/anti christian/anti jew universities. "sadly"
</font>[/QUOTE]So you subscribe to the theory that bad things happen to people because of sin in their life.?

Are you Jewish?
</font>[/QUOTE]Isn't that pretty much symptomatic of the whole Word of Faith heresy? I would say that he is a typical follower of Pat's.

Joseph Botwinick
 

KenH

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"Those comments are wholly inappropriate and offensive and really don't have a place in this or any other debate," presidential spokesman Trent Duffy said as Bush traveled to Chicago for a speech.

- Source

Kudos to the Bush administration for putting this clown in his place.
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LadyEagle

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Robertson calls Sharon 'a good friend'
In the broadcast, the evangelist said he had personally prayed about a year ago with Sharon, whom he called “a very tender-hearted man and a good friend.” He said he was sad to see Sharon in this condition.


Robertson also said, however, that in the Bible, the prophet Joel “makes it very clear that God has enmity against those who ‘divide my land.”’

Sharon “was dividing God’s land and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU (European Union), the United Nations, or the United States of America,” Robertson said.

Many of Israel’s 245,000 West Bank settlers, backed by right-wing Israelis and conservative Christians worldwide, view the West Bank as the Land of Israel which God promised the Jews in the Bible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10728347/
 

KenH

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Robertson calls Sharon 'a good friend'
Yeah, some friend when Robertson is saying, in essence, "God has struck you down because you don't agree with my eschatological viewpoint."
 
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