poncho
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Don't sweat it Bob there are alot of anti American globalists left for you vote for.
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Ron Paul Wins Iowa GOP Debate
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Don't sweat it Bob there are alot of anti American globalists left for you vote for.
poncho
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How rare can it be Bro? I mean there's only a couple Ron Paul supporters on this board. Everyone else is in love with the international elitists that've been reducing this country to a police state dictatorship.
Fact # 1 It cost $30 to vote in the Iowa straw poll
Fact # 2 The Ron Paul campaign (among others) bought vote tickets for his supporters
Fact # 3 The Ron Paul campaing bussed in citizens to vote for him
Do you dispute any of the above listed facts?
"Talk about media bias."
You forgot one source I mentioned but am sure it is a total lie as well.
"BTW, have you read the comment sections yet?"
Meaning???????????????? what "comment sections"?
You forgot one source I mentioned but am sure it is a total lie as well.
"BTW, have you read the comment sections yet?"
Meaning???????????????? what "comment sections"?
Bob Alkire
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I'm not hunting for any anti American. Last Republican that I voted for who was running for president was Reagan. But one thing is for sure I won't vote for Paul, to much water over the dam from my time studying Libertarian and going to there meeting and listing him talk. Gave up on their party and him 15 to 20 years ago.
In all fairness, all the straw poll folks tried to do this. The fact that Paul was able to marshal the forces to win, says something.
I think it says that he's got a lot of less than wealthy people (read students) that get the word out via Facebook and Twitter that Ron Paul will give you $30 to show up and vote for him. In other words, his support is 1/4" deep.
What good would that do? They hand out tickets, not money. Its not like "poor college students" are getting actual money.
The fact is that Paul did the same thing that ALL of the other candidates did, except Paul was successful. It is really starting to irritate me; I didn't even like Ron Paul that much, until I started seeing how he keeps winning polls, straw polls (repeatedly...even at the Republican CPAC!), and such, and yet the press keeps ignoring him, or minimizing him, and calling others "front runners" (like Romney), even though Paul trounces him in the actual polls! It sure seems like the liberal goofballs in the media are trying to pick our candidate for us...
Yet, he never wins a primary, never even comes close. Yes, Ron Paul has a zealous group of young people that are socially connected via technology and can get the word out. This is useful for online polls and straw polls but when the rubber meets the road at actual people voting in primaries, Paul fails.
The reason the press calls Romney the frontrunner is because....he's the front runner.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep.../republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
He's been the frontrunner for the past year (scroll down the chart at the link provided.)
The reason Paul doesn't win the primary, is because the liberal media puts a spin on every time, that doesn't just say "Ron Paul can't win" (although they do that, too), they just ignore him completely, and act like he isn't even running.
The fact is, a lot of people support Paul. I am active in the RP (though I am independent at heart), and just about everyone I talk to has pushed for Paul. Romney is HATED among the GOP base...he is NOT the frontrunner, but idiots like Rove keep trying to brainwash people by saying it, over and over again. Romney does not have a CHANCE. He is certainly not the "front runner." Pretty much the entirety of the evangelical portion of the GOP has outright rejected him, and Romney's healthcare plan has sealed his doom among tea partiers.
Paul, if he was nominated, could actually beat Obama. He draws large independent support, and even appeals to some liberals because of his anti-war policy (which I agree with!).
I cite a website with multiple independent polls showing Romney the frontrunner and you dismiss it.
None of those polls are Republican party polls. They are all polls that are open to everyone, and MOST of them are ran by the goofball leftist media; the others are ran by people that support "Good ole boy" establishment candidates.
When the actual votes take place, Paul wins, Romney tanks. Doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?
LOL. Like the Presidential election?
In the 2008 Republican primaries Ron Paul won 21 delegates, good for 1% of the total. Romney had 274 delegates, good for 17% of the total. Ron Paul's best showing was in Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, Nevada (those powerhouse electoral college states) where he got 25%, 21%, 17% and 14% of delegates to Romney's 38%, 36%, 44% and 51%.
So that's your idea of Romney tanking when going head-to-head with Paul in actual voting?
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This is exactly what I am talking about. Why did this happen? Cause the media picked our candidate. "Oh, Ron Paul can't win..." "Romney's the front runner..." Then the mass of humanity, that is built primarily of a bunch of lemmings, say "Oh, Paul can't win! The media says so! Better pick someone else!"
Its ridiculous. The headline on politico was that Bachman won the straw poll, and Pawlenty came in a "distant third." Seriously? They continually, deliberately, remove Paul from mention, or else hit their talking points that "Paul can't win."
If you theory is correct - then we have a whole bunch of stupid voters...
Hang on. Paul finished behind McCain, Romney, and Huckabee. Are you asserting that the media hand-picked these three ahead of Ron Paul?
poncho
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What comment sections? Oh every comment section to every article the mainstream media publishes. That's what comment sections. Try reading them. (Hint, it helps to understand what others are thinking.)
Salty says . . .
Fact # 1 It cost $30 to vote in the Iowa straw poll
Fact # 2 The Ron Paul campaign (among others) bought vote tickets for his supporters
Fact # 3 The Ron Paul campaing bussed in citizens to vote for him
Do you dispute any of the above listed facts?
I say. No I do not.
Fact # 1 Bachmann's campaign bought 6,000 vote tickets. How many did Paul's campaign buy? 4,750. Proving what? Bachmann's campaign spent more money.
Fact # 2 Bachmann is a "tea party" traitor.
Fact # 3 MandyM and InTheDark are totally wrong about the existence of a, oh here comes that word "conspiracy" to marginalize Ron Paul.
Do you dispute any of the above listed facts?
Here's why MandyM and InTheDark are totally wrong.
The conspirators have ADMITTED IT!
“We are in the business of kicking candidates out of the race”. CNN host Howard Kurtz.
“the media doesn’t believe he has a hoot in hells chance of winning the Iowa caucuses, the Republican nomination or winning the presidency, so we’re gonna ignore him.” Politico’s Roger Simon
It ought to be obvious by now to those who have witnessed presidential "elections" in the past that there has always been a "conspiracy" to brainwash Americans and pick their candidates for them.
But for those who are either to young to remember or to bull headed to admit it here's a VIDEO reminder. C'mon people even a liberal like Jon Stewart can comprehend it.
And something else you all seem to forget from "elections" past. George W. Bush ran on a non interventionist anti nation building platform and won. Barrack Obama ran on an anti-war platform and won. (what'd we get? more war and wars bigger debt less freedom)
Ron Paul is the only one running on a non interventionist anti nation building anti war platform as he always has.
What does all this mean? Simple. Americans are sick of these unconstitutional, wasteful, needless and endless "wars" and nation building experiments and we want something different and Ron Paul is that something different.
Y'all want more wars more blood more debt more enemies to fight around the world more TSA groping and less privacy and freedom at home? Vote for a "Top Tier" candidate they'll be glad to deliver it all and more for ya.
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poncho
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And what's heppened since then? Everything Ron Paul said was coming arrived! People have taken notice. This is now it ain't back then InTheDark. Old numbers don't matter. Matter of fact winning an election doesn't even matter.
You all make to big a deal out of all the political theather. One thing you don't seem to understand. It's never been about winning elections. It's always been about getting the message of limited government a sound money system and personal liberty back out into the mainstream and bring the real problems (not the theatrical problems y'all dwell on) this country faces into focus.
I'd say Ron Paul and Rand have done a fine job of doing just that. I mean look how hard you have to work to defend the global bankster's criminal fiat currency enterprise these days.
Didn't have to do that before Ron Paul started telling people the truth about what a rip off scam the Federal Reserve system is did ya? :smilewinkgrin:
"What comment sections? Oh every comment section to every article the mainstream media publishes. That's what comment sections. Try reading them. (Hint, it helps to understand what others are thinking.)"
What does that have to do with what I posted??????????? I reported something that I saw on the news - there are no comments on the news on my tv set. You basically said the network news lied about Backman winning the straw pole. That puts it on you to prove them wrong which you have not done. Every source I checked listed her first, you have given none that list Paul first.
Accusations are easy.
What does that have to do with what I posted??????????? I reported something that I saw on the news - there are no comments on the news on my tv set. You basically said the network news lied about Backman winning the straw pole. That puts it on you to prove them wrong which you have not done. Every source I checked listed her first, you have given none that list Paul first.
Accusations are easy.