Ron Pauls Secret Weapon

[Havensdad]

As the candidate Obama could beat the easiest, he is the darling of liberals that have no liberal to vote for in their own primary.



http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.c...s-protest-gop-caucuses-fallon-helped-run-one/

Actually, polls show that he is one of the ones that do the BEST out of everyone.

Similar scenes were played out all over Iowa. Paul's Iowa numbers are contrived.

Not so. According to the polling data, only 17 percent of those who voted in the primary were non-conservatives. Of that number, Paul did get 40 percent, but Romney was just barely behind him, and even SANTORUM got almost 10 percent of them!

The amount of Democrats who switched was negligible (Less than 2 percent), and of those that voted for Paul, most will vote for Paul in the General election. Paul's movement is a genuine appeal to others to abandon their party, and vote for him.

ROMNEY, on the other hand, also has a movement among Democrats. However, in his case, it is an effort to get the most liberal candidate as an alternative to Obama, if their party should lose the White House, and fragment the party...

 

[Salty]

Lets see what happens in NH and SC - both of which I believe are closed primaries

 

[Havensdad]

Lets see what happens in NH and SC - both of which I believe are closed primaries

According to the latest polls, Paul's up to 24 percent! His support has doubled in the last week. He is becoming the official "non-Romney."

What is great, is that since the Iowa vote, under their new rules, is nothing more than a straw poll, and Paul's people were specifically trained to stick around and get appointed as delegates. Someone close to the campaign has said they are confidant that they have a "majority" of the delegates!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc60JmaLbE

Also, since every primary before April (except for Florida) is not a "winner take all" this helps Paul as well. He beat Romney in Texas last time, and I am confident he can do it again. California also has a good shot of going Ron Paul's direction. He and Romney are the only ones appearing on the Virginia ballot..

Paul has some excellent strategists working for him, I can tell you that! Like it or not, Paul is the ONLY one who has a chance of defeating Romney.

 

[Michael Wrenn]

Copout.

Anti -zionism has it's roots in anti-semitism.

Maybe you should join Islam. They are expert ant-semites. Then you could stop hiding behing a phony anabaptist label, with "celtic" influence.

Wrong and slanderous. I am a born-again believer and follower of Jesus.

I have words to describe you, but I can't post them here.

Zionism is a radical political movement.

 

[kyredneck]

...Our latest Jew hater?

What a cheap, shallow shot.

Here's one right back at you; you deluded dispies hate America, you hate your own children.

 

[carpro]

Actually, polls show that he is one of the ones that do the BEST out of everyone.

Dream on. :laugh:

 

[carpro]

What a cheap, shallow shot.

Here's one right back at you; you deluded dispies hate America, you hate your own children.

Incoherence impresses no one. :laugh:

Using neocon and zionist, comparitively, in the same sentence when the 2 are light years apart is laughable at best, and more likely a product of the writers own prejudices and hates.

 

[Havensdad]

Dream on. :laugh:

"Wow, I can't argue with the actual polls, or the facts, so I will just belittle what he says, and pray that people believe me..."

:tonofbricks:

 

[kyredneck]

Incoherence impresses no one. :laugh:

Using neocon and zionist, comparitively, in the same sentence when the 2 are light years apart is laughable at best, and more likely a product of the writers own prejudices and hates.

Oh, I was coherent, it's your denseness and your own prejudice and hate that's clouding the picture for you.

 

[Michael Wrenn]

I think some "Christians" need to be reacquainted with the actual teachings of Jesus. Some of these professed believers would fit in quite nicely with the Zealots and Pharisees of the first century.

 

[Salty]

Latest NH poll

Latest VA Poll

Another NH poll

 

[Havensdad]

Latest NH poll

Latest VA Poll

Another NH poll

Looks good! Paul has went up 5-10 percent in NH! And the Virginia poll is too old to mean anything, since the only two left in that race are Paul and Romney.

 

[carpro]

I think some "Christians" need to be reacquainted with the actual teachings of Jesus. Some of these professed believers would fit in quite nicely with the Zealots and Pharisees of the first century.

OTOH Denying that anti zionism has it's roots in anti semitism simply denies reality.

Even a noted expert on racism said:

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."

Webster's also list someof the definitions of anti-semitism as "opposition to Zionism" and "sympathy for the opponents of Israel".

There is plenty of historical evidence to suggest that anti-zionism has racism as it root cause. If you use anti zionist rhetoric, you risk putting yourself in company of some virulent racists.

 

[carpro]

Lets see what happens in NH and SC - both of which I believe are closed primaries

He will get his usual 9-11% in closed primaries.

 

[kyredneck]

OTOH Denying that anti zionism has it's roots in anti semitism simply denies reality.

Even a noted expert on racism said:

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."

Webster's also list someof the definitions of anti-semitism as "opposition to Zionism" and "sympathy for the opponents of Israel".

There is plenty of historical evidence to suggest that anti-zionism has racism as it root cause. If you use anti zionist rhetoric, you risk putting yourself in company of some virulent racists.

The hate speech law crowd loves people like you. You're right where they want you to be. But the hate speech laws are not yet in effect, we still have our first amendent right to freedom of expression, irregardless of what deluded ones such as you say. For now, I'll call a spade a spade when I see it. Criticism of Israel is NOT anti-semitism.

 

[carpro]

Criticism of Israel is NOT anti-semitism.

No one said it was.

You're inventing an argument where there isn't one. According to anti-zionists, there should not be an Israel to be critical of.

How about you? Do you believe the nation of Israel has no right to, and should not, exist at all?

 

[Havensdad]

No one said it was.

You're inventing an argument where there isn't one. According to anti-zionists, there should not be an Israel to be critical of.

How about you? Do you believe the nation of Israel has no right to, and should not, exist at all?

So...if you think it was wrong for the U.S. and Britain to kick people off their land and give it others, because of their race, then your racist?

Wouldn't the person(s) who were in FAVOR of giving people a land because of their race, technically be the racists?

 

[poncho]

Yeah in a sane world they would. Unfortunately though lunatics and sociopaths are in control of our world including the flow of information and the manipulation of public opinion and "facts". Facts that favor the lunatics and sociopaths are allowed facts unfavorable to the lunatics and sociopaths facts are supressed.

 

[carpro]

So...if you think it was wrong for the U.S. and Britain to kick people off their land and give it others, because of their race, then your racist?

Wouldn't the person(s) who were in FAVOR of giving people a land because of their race, technically be the racists?

So, you're saying the nation of Israel has no right to exist.

Hmmm...sounds familiar.

 

[billwald]

>So...if you think it was wrong for the U.S. and Britain to kick people off their land and give it others, because of their race, then your racist?

No, the US and Britain are trying to atone for past sins by being racist on the theory that God loves Jews and hates Arabs.