Ronald Reagan was an abortionist too

[Zaac]

As president, Ronald Reagan was an unflagging champion of unborn human life. “Today there is a wound in our national conscience,” Reagan told a joint session of Congress in his 1986 State of the Union. “America will never be whole as long as the right to life granted by our Creator is denied to the unborn.”

But honest discussions of Reagan’s record on the abortion issue admit that as California governor he signed into law a liberalization of abortion that led to an explosion of abortions in the nation’s largest state. Reagan critics and supporters alike recognize this fact — one that is particularly tough to swallow for staunch pro-lifers. The full story, however, is more complicated — and worth setting straight now, 35 years after Roe v. Wade.

On June 14, 1967, Ronald Reagan signed the Therapeutic Abortion Act, after only six months as California governor. From a total of 518 legal abortions in California in 1967, the number of abortions would soar to an annual average of 100,000 in the remaining years of Reagan’s two terms — more abortions than in any U.S. state prior to the advent of Roe v. Wade. Reagan’s signing of the abortion bill was an ironic beginning for a man often seen as the modern father of the pro-life movement. How did this happen?

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[Revmitchell]

That is right Reagan was once a liberal who turned conservative. He was once a liberal and an abortionist who repented.

 

[Zaac]

That is right Reagan was once a liberal who turned conservative. He was once a liberal and an abortionist who repented.

And how do we know that Reagan truly repented? How do we know whether or not Mandela did or not?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

We can compare statements made after said repentance. See which man was more consistent in speech and deed.

 

[Revmitchell]

This is a stupid thread and has no real point

 

[go2church]

Not any more then any other thread.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Not any more then any other thread.

... started by Zaac, CrabtownBoy or FollowTheWay

 

[Zaac]

We can compare statements made after said repentance. See which man was more consistent in speech and deed.

In other words, you don't know.

 

[Zaac]

This is a stupid thread and has no real point

So I guess we can assume the same about the thread you started about Mandela being an abortionist?

 

[church mouse guy]

I think that we can tell by looking at the stance of the GOP since 1982 to amend the constitution to protect the life of the child versus the Democrat Party insistence that the life of the child depends upon the decision of the mother. I don't know of any pro-life Democrats in the last 30 years although there have been one or two who were silenced by the Democrat leaders. The Democrat Presidents Clinton and Obama have been in favor of abortion and Obama has advocated that any baby born alive in the process of being aborted should be murdered by the doctor on the spot.

 

[Zaac]

The GOP is a bunch of smoke and mirrors when it comes to abortion.:laugh:

But we're talking about individuals and not political parties.

As such, if Mandela is described as an abortionist, then Reagan can likewise be described as one.

 

[Crabtownboy]

That is right Reagan was once a liberal who turned conservative. He was once a liberal and an abortionist who repented.

Actually Rev. he didn't repent. He made a deal with the Pope. The agreement was the Pope would not complain of a new generation of missiles being introduced into NATO and Reagan would politically oppose abortion. This is not a well know fact. I only know it because I indexed a book on abortion in the 1990's and these negotiations and agreement was discussed in one of the chapters.

This seems to be an issue totally ignored by both the right and left media outlets.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

In other words, you don't know.

Never claimed to. But I'm willing to bet 50 pushups Reagan was a more consistent post-repentance anti-abortionist than Mandela was a post-repentance anti-communinst.

You could prove me wrong, since it's your thread. I would have no problem admitting it if it's true. But I'm betting Reagan. But I don't care enough to do any research, given your refusal to view anything in an objective, non-biased manner.

 

[Zaac]

Actually Rev. he didn't repent. He made a deal with the Pope. The agreement was the Pope would not complain of a new generation of missiles being introduced into NATO and Reagan would politically oppose abortion. This is not a well know fact. I only know it because I indexed a book on abortion in the 1990's and these negotiations and agreement was discussed in one of the chapters.

This seems to be an issue totally ignored by both the right and left media outlets.

Interesting CTB. I was actually gonna venture earlier that Reagan was probably only politically pro-life because that's what his public persona needed to be. Like most Republicans, he only made noise about abortion because of voting blocs.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'm not worried about his motivation, I'm just interested in the results. Are we going to discuss results or fairy tales ?

 

[Zaac]

Never claimed to. But I'm willing to bet 50 pushups Reagan was a more consistent post-repentance anti-abortionist than Mandela was a post-repentance anti-communinst.

Bet all you want. He was still just as much an abortionist as Mandela.

ANd why do yall keep mentioning him repenting? He didn't have an abortion. It's not a sin to be pro-choice.

You could prove me wrong, since it's your thread. I would have no problem admitting it if it's true.

Proving you right or wrong isn't the purpose of the thread.

But I'm betting Reagan. But I don't care enough to do any research, given your refusal to view anything in an objective, non-biased manner.

Ain't no need for you to do any research. It's recorded history that Reagan was an abortionist too so it doesn't matter what you find about him repenting of something that's not a sin.

 

[Zaac]

I'm not worried about his motivation, I'm just interested in the results. Are we going to discuss results or fairy tales ?

Yes, the results show that Reagan was an abortionist.:thumbs:

 

[Crabtownboy]

I'm not worried about his motivation, I'm just interested in the results. Are we going to discuss results or fairy tales ?

So it is all right in your book to oppose abortion while favoring better ways to kill the living?

When did Reagan repent ... when the astrologer, Joan Quigley, the White House used for advice told him to?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So it is all right in your book to oppose abortion while favoring better ways to kill the living?

When did Reagan repent ... when the astrologer, Joan Quigley, the White House used for advice told him to?

Until you retract your slander I'm not entering into any discussion with you.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yes, the results show that Reagan was an abortionist.:thumbs:

Well my challenge to you stands.