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Ronald Reagan was an abortionist too

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I'd say that God is pro-choice, IMO in that He's given everyone of us the right to choose to do right or wrong.



But He's also pro-life as that is the CORRECT choice.

So there is nothing sinful about wanting to have the option to choose. The sin is making the wrong choice.
I thought, until I read this, Aaron's call for Zaac and CTB to be banned was a bit over the top. Not anymore. Toss 'em. This is near, if not outright, heresy.
 

Zaac

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Meaning the opinions of the majority of the board members, or as decided by the site staff and outlined in the ToS?

Meaning that he's looking for a way to shut people up who don't say what he and the majority clique want to hear. They really do act like the Pharisees. Full of piety and all the answers. But absent a display of love for anyone who politically isn't like them.

I'm by far more conservative than the majority of them. they just don't think so.

I am also pro-whatever God says. They just don't think so.

Rev is just grasping for stuff. As long as a person doesn't come in here talking about abortion isn't a sin, they'll be alright.

The position of the board is that life begins at conception.
 
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Bro. Curtis

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I thought, until I read this, Aaron's call for Zaac and CTB to be banned was a bit over the top. Not anymore. Toss 'em. This is near, if not outright, heresy.

It's not only that. It's the blatant dishonesty and refusal to engage in honest debate from the pair, that lead me to believe they are here simply to sew discord.
 

Revmitchell

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Meaning the opinions of the majority of the board members, or as decided by the site staff and outlined in the ToS?

In the past members have been sanctioned for espousing anything other than pro-life views by the management of this board. They have also been banned for espousing doctrinal views such as Millennial Exclusion.
 

Amy.G

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I'd say that God is pro-choice, IMO in that He's given everyone of us the right to choose to do right or wrong.

But He's also pro-life as that is the CORRECT choice.

So there is nothing sinful about wanting to have the option to choose. The sin is making the wrong choice.
So let's make murder and rape legal. I mean it's a choice right? Let's free all the murderers and rapists from prison. How dare we interfere with their "choice".
 

evenifigoalone

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In the past members have been sanctioned for espousing anything other than pro-life views by the management of this board. They have also been banned for espousing doctrinal views such as Millennial Exclusion.

If that's how the staff operate, okay...they have a right to decide what is and is not allowed.

Although personally I would have opted to report any offending material to the staff quietly rather than announcing it across the board. But that's me.
 

Revmitchell

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If that's how the staff operate, okay...they have a right to decide what is and is not allowed.

Although personally I would have opted to report any offending material to the staff quietly rather than announcing it across the board. But that's me.

I do not understand your meaning here.
 

Zaac

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So let's make murder and rape legal. I mean it's a choice right? Let's free all the murderers and rapists from prison. How dare we interfere with their "choice".

Who said that? Society had a choice and they chose to make it illegal to do those things just like they chose to make it legal to get an abortion.

Doesn't mean they got it right. But agreeing with giving people a choice isn't sinful.
 

evenifigoalone

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I do not understand your meaning here.

Calling out a member by name in a thread asking for the staff to ban them.

I'm staff on another Christian forum and we discourage that kind of behavior very strongly and feel that staff punishments or admonishments to members should be kept strictly between that member and the staff. Reports of posts, too, are known only to the staff and the only member who does know about it is the one who reported it--and all he knows is that he reported it.

But different forums are handled different ways and there are different ideas. I do tend to be of the mindset that I'd rather not intentionally create conflict with another member by announcing on the board that I want the staff to ban him, though.
 

Zaac

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Find one post where I have said I am in favor of abortion.

I challenge him to do the same with any of mine. You just got a lot of folks on this board and in the evangelical church who are mad that a man has been twice elected who doesn't agree with them and their politics and it poisons their relationships with anyone who doesn't hold the same animosity toward him and others like him.

They demand that you be just as angry as they are about their politics to the point that it makes you just as guilty of sinning as they are. After all, if they can get you to act like them and not point out their wickedness, then they can feel comfortable continuing in the same wicked, unGodly behavior everyday with a board full of like-minded folks to pat them on the back and say "you're so right".
 

Amy.G

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Who said that? Society had a choice and they chose to make it illegal to do those things just like they chose to make it legal to get an abortion.

Doesn't mean they got it right. But agreeing with giving people a choice isn't sinful.

Really? It's not sinful for society to choose to make rape and murder legal? I'd say the society that does that is as bad as Sodom and is very sinful!
 

Zaac

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Calling out a member by name in a thread asking for the staff to ban them.

I'm staff on another Christian forum and we discourage that kind of behavior very strongly and feel that staff punishments or admonishments to members should be kept strictly between that member and the staff. Reports of posts, too, are known only to the staff and the only member who does know about it is the one who reported it--and all he knows is that he reported it.

But different forums are handled different ways and there are different ideas. I do tend to be of the mindset that I'd rather not intentionally create conflict with another member by announcing on the board that I want the staff to ban him, though.

It's okay quest. They want a board full of folks who will tell them to be angry at the President and everybody associated with him rather than telling them to pray for the man and his administration.

They want someone who will tell them it's okay to dishonor and disrespect the one God has placed in authority because they really disagree with his politics and the way that he's affecting their pocketbooks.

They want a board full of folks who tells them its okay to express nothing of love for the born while claiming to be so concerned about the unborn.

They want someone who tells them that they are the epitome of a follower of Jesus Christ and how much they love Jesus who they haven't seen while they continue to express so much everything but love for their Brothers and Sisters in Christ they have seen.

It's why the church is so ineffective and so many in it lacking a witness for Christ.

Partisan politics has taken the place of love for Jesus and others...but they want you to believe that they love others because they gave to the Lottie Moon Christmas offering.

They want a board full of folks who are self righteous enough to not tell them that it's the wickedness in OUR HOUSES, not the White House, that's destroying society.

It pains me that the attitudes of this board are the very same in most evangelical churches. Lacking love. That might explain why they are so good at doing programs for themselves but so bad at ministering to the lost.
 

Zaac

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Really? It's not sinful for society to choose to make rape and murder legal? I'd say the society that does that is as bad as Sodom and is very sinful!

Does Scripture say it's sinful? Again Scripture does say that all things are allowed just like God ALLOWS people the choice to get a divorce.

It's not a sin to say that people should be able to decide if they want to get a divorce. Now getting a divorce is another story.

Society already has the choice to decide if it's lawful to rape or murder.
 
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