Ronnie Earle Gets it Wrong or Just Doesn't Get It

[carpro]

Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
I've lived in Houston since Delay first got into politics. He is as crooked as a snake, everybody here knows it, it's common knowledge. It's about time he's finally brought to trial. I knew that he would finally be caught.

You wouldn't be biased. Would ya now, Terry?

Although it makes a lot of sense. Anyone in the pest control business just has to be deeply involved in graft and corruption.

 

[carpro]

I didn't realize when I started this thread just how wrong earle actually got it.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

Earle Seeks Second Delay Indictment After Errors With First
Tue Oct 04 2005 10:29:52 ET

The AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN reports, Travis County prosecutors rushed Monday to fix problems with an indictment against DeLay by charging him "with the first-degree felony of money laundering.

Last week a Travis County grand jury ended its term by indicting DeLay on a charge that accused him of conspiring to violate state campaign finance laws. The problem with that indictment, according to DeLay's lawyers, was that the conspiracy law did not apply to the election code in 2002.

The Texas Legislature changed the law, which went into effect Sept. 1, 2003. That left Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle and his assistants presenting a complicated case to a group of grand jurors on their first day of meeting. Prosecutors hoped to fix the problem by reindicting DeLay on charges that he conspired to launder corporate money into political donations. In 2002, the conspiracy law applied to money laundering.

Developing...

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by hillclimber:
Many times, but are accusations to be taken as convictions? It is a well known tactic for Democrats to throw accusations around, which IS taken as a partial conviction in the press and by the people.

Um, he was admonished on three different occasions for unethical activity by the House Ethics Committee. You can't blame that on the Democrats.

 

[Scott J]

Solution: Decentralize power and reduce Federal influence to roughly what it was in 1900. It would only absorb 7-10% of GNP and would greatly reduce corruption by removing incentives to those who incite the corruption.

 

[Terry_Herrington]

Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hillclimber:My friend in Houston says that he Delay, is very conscious of right and wrong and strives not only to avoid wrongdoing but to avoid the appearance of it.

How many times has DeLay been admonished for his ethics issues? </font>[/QUOTE]Delay is as guilty as sin; the sooner we dump him the better. Hopefully there will be some prison time involved, but I doubt it.

 

[rlvaughn]

Originally posted by carpro:
A copy of the still-unfinished film, entitled The Big Buy, was obtained by National Review Online Friday.

Isn't it unethical (on the part of the DA) to be making a film about an ongoing case, or am I missing something?

Also, I sure there is a logical explanation, but why was DeLay indicted in Travis County rather than Harris County?

Thanks.

 

[just-want-peace]

Delay is as guilty as sin; the sooner we dump him the better. Hopefully there will be some prison time involved, but I doubt it.

Better be careful Terry! Statements as dogmatic as this have a tendency to come back and bite you on the butt sometime down the road.

I sure hope you don't practice this style of judgment with your students.

 

[Bro. James Reed]

To counterbalance Terry, I also live here and I believe that DeLay is innocent.

Unlike Terry, who lives in the big, sinful city, us suburb folks, the type of people DeLay represents, believe he is innocent of the charges.

From what has been reported of the charges, I really do not see how any group of people could have indicted anyone on these allegations.

btw, after one indictment, it doesn't take much to get a second. A grand jury only has to see that there is a possibility of guilt. If another grand jury has indicted him on related charges (the 6th grand jury to hear them, mind you), then all Earle has to do is say that he has already been indicted on related charges, so the possibility of guilt has already been established. After the first one, the second one pretty much had to indict him, unless they were militant DeLay supporters.

Since this issue involves a state official, that is the reason it is taking place in Travis, rather than Harris county.

In Harris county, the charges would not have been brought, but even so, there would not have been an indictment.

Travis county, encompassing Austin, is the most liberal county in the state.

This whole thing has been a hot topic around the office since it happened. Even admitted liberals that I work with do not see how DeLay could be indicted on these charges. I have yet to hear someone who does, except for Terry.

Those who do not like DeLay will probably assume guilt just because he gets his way most of the time in Congress.

To be perfectly honest, I would love to see Sheila Jackson Lee be put in jail on similar charges, but that doesn't mean she is guilty of them. It just means I don't like her.

I think Terry is in the same boat.

 

[hillclimber]

Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
Delay is as guilty as sin; the sooner we dump him the better. Hopefully there will be some prison time involved, but I doubt it.

I would be inclined to give a fellow believer his day in court before rendering a verdict.

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by rlvaughn:
Also, I sure there is a logical explanation, but why was DeLay indicted in Travis County rather than Harris County?

I think it's because these are state charges and the state capital is in Travis County. It is the only county Earle has jurisdiction in as he is the Travis County District Attorney. But you're from Texas so you already know that.

 

[hillclimber]

Originally posted by Daisy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hillclimber:
Many times, but are accusations to be taken as convictions? It is a well known tactic for Democrats to throw accusations around, which IS taken as a partial conviction in the press and by the people.

Um, he was admonished on three different occasions for unethical activity by the House Ethics Committee. You can't blame that on the Democrats. </font>[/QUOTE]Of course I can. They wouldn't have stopped at an admonishment were there anything at all to it. But I think I would change the word Democrats to leftist socialists.

 

[Daisy]

It also seems as though the the authority of the Public Integrity Unit belongs to the Travis County District Attorney's office rather than the Texas State Attorney General - although it has been proposed in 2004 by Republican Party of Texas Chairman Tina Benkiser to change that, I don't believe it has been changed yet (it probably will be now).

Source: FreeRepublic.com (linkie, see 2nd story down)

Originally posted by hillclimber:
Of course I can. They wouldn't have stopped at an admonishment were there anything at all to it. But I think I would change the word Democrats to leftist socialists.

There are as many Republicans as Democrats on the committee and the vote was unanimous. What I should have said is that you can't correctly or fairly blame that on the Dems. If you don't care about being correct or fair, you can blame whomever you choose. *** shrug ***

 

[hillclimber]

Originally posted by Daisy:
It also seems as though the the authority of the Public Integrity Unit belongs to the Travis County District Attorney's office rather than the Texas State Attorney General - although it has been proposed in 2004 by Republican Party of Texas Chairman Tina Benkiser to change that, I don't believe it has been changed yet (it probably will be now).

Source: FreeRepublic.com (linkie, see 2nd story down)


</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hillclimber:
Of course I can. They wouldn't have stopped at an admonishment were there anything at all to it. But I think I would change the word Democrats to leftist socialists.

There are as many Republicans as Democrats on the committee and the vote was unanimous. What I should have said is that you can't correctly or fairly blame that on the Dems. If you don't care about being correct or fair, you can blame whomever you choose. *** shrug *** </font>[/QUOTE]OK I see your point