Show the scripture that teaches this then.
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RULE#1 For anything to be Officially Christian it must be found in the scriptures.
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Does anyone know what the word hypocrisy means?
What everyone says has to be spelled out in scripture, but my fake rule that is not in scripture doesn't need to be spelled out.
How is that fair?
This why no will never win this debate it has to be the TRUTH.
What everyone says has to be spelled out in scripture, but my fake rule that is not in scripture doesn't need to be spelled out.
How is that fair?
This why no will never win this debate it has to be the TRUTH.
All scripture is inspired by God to us and for us!
Particular
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Is the Bible God's word?
The issue isn't about worship. The issue is about authoritative guide over all human decisions and teachings about God.
Since God gave us the Bible by inspiration of the Holy Spirit for doctrine, reproof, correction, etc., should it not be authoritative over human wisdom?
Who made the claim about "officially Christian?" What does that mean?
The Bible is our source for final discernment.
Jesus always emphasized God's word over the traditions of the Jewish leaders. He pointed out how their traditions were stumbling blocks and snares upon the people.
Why, then would you lift up that model as your church has become the legalism of the Jewish system.
"Is the Bible God's word?"
Jesus Christ is God's word.
Gospel, WORD, SCRIPTURE. Those are three different things. Thats why they use different words.
Everything you write down even your post is SCRIPTURE. Its not HOLY SCRIPTURE.
Scripture just means writings.... Its not a holy word, Not a magical word either.
The bible is true. Everything in the bible is right. All good things the bible teaches is officially christian.
The following rule however:
RULE#1 For anything to be Officially Christian it must be found in the scriptures.
Is not taught in scriptures.
Who made the claim about "officially Christian?" What does that mean?
I'm making the claim, doesn't matter. Officially can mean GOD AUTHORIZED.
before you get back to moving goal posts.
RULE#1 For anything to be Officially Christian it must be found in the scriptures. This is a false statement right? YES OR NO.
Yes! That is a very Catholic belief!
Particular
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You are running around in avoidance. Deny the Bible if you wish. I trust it and believe God has spoken to us in it.
If you love your church sayings more than what God says, that is entirely on you.
You have been shown what God declares. I have nothing more to add. Your folly is not my concern.
AHH then we are in agreement.
This church saying RULE#1 For anything to be Officially Christian it must be found in the scriptures.
Is FALSE.
If your talking about SOLA SCRIPTURA
Some folks will add the word "infallible"
"The sole infallible source of authority for Christian faith and practice."
Also the meaning might need clarification like between being the only infallible authority but not the only authority vs the only infallible and only authority.
I'm just cutting to the chase to a simpler claim. There is a difference between saying all good teachings in scripture are christian and all christian teaching CAN ONLY be found in scriptures.
IF someone insists the teaching all christian teachings can only be found in the scripture, then that teaching ITSELF must be found in scripture OR IT IS INVALID/ unbiblical.
You can't have a double standard.
except you do not stick just to that, as hold also to extra biblical sources!
" extra biblical sources!"
Thats against what biblical rule? Give us the verse.
Is it the ELEVENTH COMMANDMENT?
THOUT SHALT FROM THE BIBLE ONLY AND FROM THE BIBLE ONLY THOU SHALT.
We know that the scriptures were inspired, and also know manmade tradition was not!
When one (The Church and it's Bishops) has the authority to decide things for the faithful given to them by God Incarnate Jesus Christ himself as related to us through the scriptures, those decisions ARE NOT extra biblical in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Yes it protects me from extra biblical manmade traditions like the man made tradition that if something is extra biblical then it must not be christian.
Is there reason you can't give scripture to support for your man made tradition?
timtofly
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You would have to at least quote some early Christians who stated that rule, if not the first Christian. I have never heard the rule, thus to me, a strawman. They are good for keeping crows from removing The Word of God from the hearts of mankind, no?
timtofly
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Sounds like a scientific theory to me. The Truth does not change even if the whole world proves your theory false.
There was never given such power to any organization, as the authority lies in the scriptures themselves, and each saved person has the Holy Spirit illumination!
Which ones? As all of mine as a baptist are in the word of God!
timtofly
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Actually all people have a double standard, one for them, and the other for how they reconcile every other humans thoughts coming at them.
I propose the point, no human can have an original thought that they themselves came up with. The brain does not work that way. It is not a thought generator on it's own. Thought comes from God the majority of human understanding. Satan places skeptical thoughts questioning God's thoughts. Who knows where thoughts come from to those who open their minds to demonic activity? Which is your point. To test thought, the Word of God is the only tangible reliable source to compare them with. The brain takes in billions of points of data, consciously and unconsciously. The mind filters all of this data, and gives it to you to process. That is where thoughts come from. We just recycle thoughts that have been around for 7000 years.
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