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Russia Declares War And Invades Ukraine

AustinC

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Matthew 24:6, NIV. "You will hear of wars and rumours of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.......'

We should be appalled and angry, but not alarmed; because if such things did not happen the Bible would not be true. Nor should we be looking at the news to form our eschatology, for the end is still to come, and the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night, while people are saying "peace" and "safety" (1 Thessalonians. 5:1-3). Not too many people saying that at the present time, I think.

As for Putin being any sort of Christian, 'The LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.'
Excellent post Martin.
This also why God abhors persons like Donald Trump. Deceit is the nature of the unsaved.

Jesus will return when all that the Father has given him are accounted for. No worries, but prayer for the peace of the city where we reside as aliens in a foreign land.
 

Wingman68

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Did Russia make sure to address the Ukrainians with the proper pronouns while invading? Are they an open an affirming military?

Our best U.S Military leaders need to know these important questions so that we can continue to build the "best fighting force on the planet".

The U.S and the West as a whole unfortunately have 0 moral high ground from which to attack Russia. We could still engage them militarily but it won't be a Christian U.S vs a Godless USSR like it used to be. It will instead be a Godless U.S vs a Christian Autocracy. We could still win, but it wouldn't be a moral victory.
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Reynolds

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Did Russia make sure to address the Ukrainians with the proper pronouns while invading? Are they an open an affirming military?

Our best U.S Military leaders need to know these important questions so that we can continue to build the "best fighting force on the planet".

The U.S and the West as a whole unfortunately have 0 moral high ground from which to attack Russia. We could still engage them militarily but it won't be a Christian U.S vs a Godless USSR like it used to be. It will instead be a Godless U.S vs a Christian Autocracy. We could still win, but it wouldn't be a moral victory.
I don't think either side could win. As soon as someone started losing too badly, nukes fly everywhere.
 

Reynolds

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The PRC has to get their equipment there. And they have to get any naval assets through Turkey. If the Russians have turncoats in place then there'll be a steamroll. If Kyiv has its counter-intelligence in order, it won't.
Turkey is a whore nation. Little bribe money from China, and Turkey will help them.
 

SavedByGrace

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Russia invades Ukraine, with the blessing of China. The "West" sanctions Russia, so China is to buy Russian oil and gas.

Next up, China invades Taiwan, with the blessing of Russia. And the "West" again can really do very little!

Both Russia and China have been allowed to grow powerful by the arrogant and ignorant "West"!
 

canadyjd

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Excellent post Martin.
This also why God abhors persons like Donald Trump. Deceit is the nature of the unsaved.

Jesus will return when all that the Father has given him are accounted for. No worries, but prayer for the peace of the city where we reside as aliens in a foreign land.
So, you are claiming to know the mind of God concerning Trump. Trump is a professing, born again Christian that you slander at every opportunity.

God abhors Christians slandering their brethren over political differences.

Slander is the nature of weak minded people.

peace to you
 

Reynolds

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Putin is already saber rattling talking about his nuclear arsenal.
I kind of try to see Putin's view. Many forget that Germany killed almost 17 million Russians in WW2. If the Warsaw Pact was still intact and Mexico wanted to join, how would we react? NATO has pushed Putin too hard.
 

AustinC

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Putin is already saber rattling talking about his nuclear arsenal.
Nuclear is not the method he is talking about. His warning is a cyber attack that will cripple the world.
I kind of try to see Putin's view. Many forget that Germany killed almost 17 million Russians in WW2. If the Warsaw Pact was still intact and Mexico wanted to join, how would we react? NATO has pushed Putin too hard.
NATO is not the issue. Putin is a Soviet who dreams of mother Russia ruling the world. The Russian Orthodox Church feeds that flame as it sees itself as the superior race and church.
 

Reynolds

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Nuclear is not the method he is talking about. His warning is a cyber attack that will cripple the world.

NATO is not the issue. Putin is a Soviet who dreams of mother Russia ruling the world. The Russian Orthodox Church feeds that flame as it sees itself as the superior race and church.
Putin simply realizes that peace is an illogical myth. Until The Prince of Peace returns, there will be no peace.
 

Iconoclast

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question to the Reformed folk. Did God predetermine what Putin is doing, as He is supposed to "ordain all things that comes to pass"?
Hello SBG,
Putin is doing what he wants to do.He has self will.[bound by a sin nature]
Nothing he does can take place outside of what God has ordained to come to pass.
Prov.21:1 The Kings heart is in the Lo hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water:he turneth it whither so ever he will.
 

Reynolds

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My, My. Calvinism and Anti Cal has invaded the news forum. Seems like I remember a rule that said it could not be discussed outside the C A forum???
 
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