Russia - Ukraine war

[AustinC]

He gets elected next POTUS.

LOL, no. If the Republican party is so retarded as to nominate Trump again, the Democrats will win in a landslide. Only the radical right would vote for him. Every swing vote would go to a Democrat or a third party candidate. Trump has his little group of anarchists claiming to be patriots, but that is it.
But, keep on deluding yourself if it helps.

 

[Use of Time]

Im quite sure youre not sure. Problem is you dont add any context. Its easy and cheap to assign motives when your accusations are devoid of context.

you seem to have an axe to grind with Trump. Are you a lefty or an establishment rino

Yes Rev Mitchell is famous for his context on this board lol.

 

[Reformed1689]

Explain how Trump was tough on Russia? And you are conflating correlation with causation on the others. I’ll buy Obama weak on Russia but you’d have to explain how Trump was tough on Russia or how Biden is weak on Russia because right now Biden has by default been the toughest of the three on that topic.

Let's see, Trump told Putin directly, you invade Ukraine and I'll bomb Moscow, sounds pretty tough to me.

 

[Reformed1689]

What indications are you referring to?

A poll last week shows Trump would not win his own home state.

Ron DeSantis beats President Donald Trump in Florida in new UNF survey

That's assuming Desantis even runs, and that is ONE state.

 

[Campion]

That's assuming Desantis even runs, and that is ONE state.

It also assumes Trump even runs.

And Florida is a pretty important state.

What indications (you said every one) do you have that Trump would win the primaries, as you assert?

 

[Use of Time]

Let's see, Trump told Putin directly, you invade Ukraine and I'll bomb Moscow, sounds pretty tough to me.

Allegedly.

 

[Reynolds]

So do you think it is a problem for people to get the vax? I know we should probably start a new thread here. He says it is a personal decision, no mandates.

I think it's a problem to switch from anti to pro because Fox told you to.

 

[Campion]

Im quite sure youre not sure. Problem is you dont add any context. Its easy and cheap to assign motives when your accusations are devoid of context.

you seem to have an axe to grind with Trump. Are you a lefty or an establishment rino

You said to post something he said and to “Be aware I know exactly what he said.”

If you know exactly what he said in that Tweet I quoted (as you warned me you did), then you know exactly the context in which he praised him.

I don’t have an axe to grind with anyone. I’m just pointing out the elephant in the room: Trump will not be able to escape the fact that he is the Godfather of the lockdowns and shutting down the economy, coupled with his comments about the world’s #1 pariah.

 

[kyredneck]

This is why these conversations are always miserable around here.

Then, leave.

 

[Use of Time]

Then, leave.

No

 

[kyredneck]

No

Misery loves company.

 

[777]

I think it's much more likely to be a Trump/DeSantis ticket but it's over two years off and shouldn't be impressed with some guy winning his home state by a whopping four points anyways.

Anything could happen in the meantime - it is possible that Biden runs and wins a new term in a landslide, too far off and you should remember that covid, Afghanistan, Ukraine will all be old news by then. Yes, I think the American attention span is that short.

Explain how Trump was tough on Russia? And you are conflating correlation with causation on the others. I’ll buy Obama weak on Russia but you’d have to explain how Trump was tough on Russia or how Biden is weak on Russia because right now Biden has by default been the toughest of the three on that topic.

Explain why you think Biden was ever tough on Russia? Not the rhetoric, talk is cheap. His energy policies sure weren't, sanctions are worthless when it comes to energy, Russia is making over 60M a day by importing this to us right now.

I think Putin perceived Biden to be weak and roll over - you know, he started putting these troops on the Ukrainian border last April, kept adding more and more, but all Biden would say was that minor excursions wouldn't freak him out. Sounds like weak policy to me, he is a green energy warrior only,

 

[Salty]

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[Use of Time]

Explain why you think Biden was ever tough on Russia? Not the rhetoric, talk is cheap. His energy policies sure weren't, sanctions are worthless when it comes to energy, Russia is making over 60M a day by importing this to us right now.

I think Putin perceived Biden to be weak and roll over - you know, he started putting these troops on the Ukrainian border last April, kept adding more and more, but all Biden would say was that minor excursions wouldn't freak him out. Sounds like weak policy to me, he is a green energy warrior only,

You are talking about actions vs rhetoric which is ironic considering the example I got about Trumps toughness on Ukraine was an alleged “I’ll bomb you comment” I.e. rhetoric.

Are you really going to ask me what Biden has done after the last week? We are potentially facing a world In which Russia may never be the same again against a modern world United against him for the first time in history. Did you deliberately not bring that up on purpose like we aren’t literally watching this play out in front of our very eyes?

 

[kyredneck]

remember that covid, Afghanistan, Ukraine will all be old news by then. Yes, I think the American attention span is that short.

Sad, but true.

 

[777]

You are talking about actions vs rhetoric which is ironic considering the example I got about Trumps toughness on Ukraine was an alleged “I’ll bomb you comment” I.e. rhetoric.

Are you really going to ask me what Biden has done after the last week? We are potentially facing a world In which Russia may never be the same again against a modern world United against him for the first time in history. Did you deliberately not bring that up on purpose like we aren’t literally watching this play out in front of our very eyes?

Still don't understand how Putin invading Ukraine is a feather in Biden's cap at all - so what if the whole world is united against Putin? Russia IS his only world.

Now "toughness" I'd define as banning all imports from Russia, maybe even sending troops over there to fight Russia, at least let them establish a no-fly zone. Rhetoric can be important in war situations so Biden should be more reassuring than this:

President Biden said Monday that Americans should not fear Russia’s invasion of Ukraine developing into a global nuclear war despite Moscow putting its nuclear forces on high alert following harsh US sanctions.

“Should Americans be worried about nuclear war?” a reporter asked the president following a Black History Month event at the White House.

“No,” Biden replied.

and why not? Because he said so?

 

[Use of Time]

Still don't understand how Putin invading Ukraine is a feather in Biden's cap at all - so what if the whole world is united against Putin? Russia IS his only world.

Now "toughness" I'd define as banning all imports from Russia, maybe even sending troops over there to fight Russia, at least let them establish a no-fly zone. Rhetoric can be important in war situations so Biden should be more reassuring than this:



and why not? Because he said so?

Never said this is a feather in his cap at all. Russia is his only world…yes…which is propped up by money and his oligarchs business relationship to the rest of the world. If you don’t think this changes things I don’t know what I can say to educate you.

If you are of the “let’s go fight camp” then by all means…suit up and fly out. They are taking volunteers.

 

[canadyjd]

Good grief what are we going to have an arm wrestling match with Putin and Biden? You can’t be this simple.

Is the rich overweight guy supposed to be some intimidating picture of toughness that is supposed to be feared by Putin?

Biden and Trump both speak oddly at times and nonsensically at others. They both have said things proven false come on. Both have always been surrounded with forms of corruption.

This is why these conversations are always miserable around here. They always delve into partisan hacks jumping to defend their dude with whatever they can muster. Or even a topic they are I’ll informed about.

You asked what was “weak” about Biden. I told you.

Physically, he walks like a man who has suffered a stroke. His gait is unsteady at best, like he’s unsure of every step.

It’s not just the verbal gaffes which he is known for. He acts like he doesn’t even know what’s going on in his own administration. There were reports of settlement payments in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for illegals separated from their children in processing. He first said it was untrue. He then said they deserved it. Then, it was put on hold and we haven’t heard anything since. Who’s making the decisions?

If you cannot detect a sharp mental decline in this man, then I really don’t know what else to say.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

LOL, no. If the Republican party is so retarded as to nominate Trump again, the Democrats will win in a landslide. Only the radical right would vote for him. Every swing vote would go to a Democrat or a third party candidate. Trump has his little group of anarchists claiming to be patriots, but that is it.
But, keep on deluding yourself if it helps.

I’m am stunned you would use the epitaph “retarded”. What are you?, 10 years old? Shame on you. People with disabilities should not be mocked. Shame, shame, shame.

peace to you

 

[777]

No, I really don't think it's a good time for two nuclear powers to face off. I'm not sure how unstable Biden and Putin are but there's signs of, well, almost psychotic thinking with both of them.

I was interested in your take because you did say that Biden was handling Putin tougher than Trump or Obama and II was wondering how you could think that. The other two weren't at the helm when Putin invaded but Trump at least dumped a bunch of sanctions on Russia, like when Putin poisoned those people. He is disgusting and now he's reportedly super-paranoid,

I may have you confused with another guy, but I thought you were in the defense contract industry somehow, an engineer of something. But I'm very aware that it's an oligarchy, why is Biden making Russia richer?

Biden and Europe Should Respond to Russian Aggression by Scrapping Extremist Climate Policies (townhall.com)

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