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[DrJamesAch]

The original 1611 can be seen here. It has Elijah spelled Eliiah.

Do your homework before making such foolish claims as Elizeus was hoe it was originally spelled.

Oh my and look how it translates Joshua in Zechariah 3:1, and Jesus in John 3:3 HW really needs a clue.

"I" was the English version of the Greek letter Iota. The letter J became the equivalent of the Greek Iota and the Hebrew Yod. HW is off his rocker, and knows SQUAT about languages.

 

[Steadfast Fred]

friend I have read it myself--your not using the correct version of the 1611

You are quite mistaken. Elijah was never spelled Elizeus in the 1611. I suggest you go back and research more, because you fail miserably when you make the claim you do.

You are so bent on being right, that you fail to see that you are wrong.

 

[HisWitness]

You are quite mistaken. Elijah was never spelled Elizeus in the 1611. I suggest you go back and research more, because you fail miserably when you make the claim you do.

You are so bent on being right, that you fail to see that you are wrong.

friend why don't you do a search over the internet its there on the very pages of the 1611 I read it right of the bible pages.

Just because you haven't found it ill find it and post for you :thumbs:

 

[Steadfast Fred]

friend why don't you do a search over the internet its there on the very pages of the 1611 I read it right of the bible pages.

Just because you haven't found it ill find it and post for you :thumbs:

I have already read it. Elijah is never called Elizeus in the 1611.

The burden of proof is on you. You present the proof that Elijah was spelled Elizeus. You are the one who made the claim.

 

[DrJamesAch]

You don't have the very first and original in your hand or you would see EliZeus for Elijah

Never said jesus had a Z said the form of Elijah that was Eli-Zeus had the z
I did say that even though they changed the z to s in Elijah--both jesus and Eli-sues when pronouncing with the s in the middle--sound like a Z pronouncment

First of all, the Hebrew text for Elijah is אליה

The Hebrew letter pronounced as a "Z" is zayin. Elijah in Hebrew NOR ENGLISH is spelled or has any equivalent of zayin within 1 mile of the name.

 

[HisWitness]

I have already read it. Elijah is never called Elizeus in the 1611.

The burden of proof is on you. You present the proof that Elijah was spelled Elizeus. You are the one who made the claim.

http://www.lydiaofpurple.com/1611_king_james_version.htm


go there and read it yourself right from the bible pages---I would copy and paste the direct source but it want let me do that---go to this site and there it is

 

[Steadfast Fred]

http://www.lydiaofpurple.com/1611_king_james_version.htm


go there and read it yourself right from the bible pages---I would copy and paste the direct source but it want let me do that---go to this site and there it is

You are wrong still. Luke 4:27 is not speaking of Elijah. Elijah was already dead to the world (taken up in a whirlwind) when Naaman was cleansed.

Do your homework, as I said. Go to 2 Kings 5:10 and read that.

As I said, in your bent to be right, you can't even see that you are wrong.

 

[Gabriel Elijah]

Luke 4:27 is about Elisha (not Elijah) & the 1611 has Elizeus—which is referring to Elisha--- the Greek has Elisaiou (a form of Elisha)—are you sure you didn’t mix up Elijah & Elisha? Or am I missing something?

 

[HisWitness]

Luke 4:27 is about Elisha (not Elijah) & the 1611 has Elizeus—which is referring to Elisha--- the Greek has Elisaiou (a form of Elisha)—are you sure you didn’t mix up Elijah & Elisha? Or am I missing something?

your right I got the 2 mixed up---my bad

but the same reasoning applies to it also

 

[DrJamesAch]

Luke 4:27 is about Elisha (not Elijah) & the 1611 has Elizeus—which is referring to Elisha--- the Greek has Elisaiou (a form of Elisha)—are you sure you didn’t mix up Elijah & Elisha? Or am I missing something?

The Elizabethan ENglish in 1611 used "Z" in words that appeared to begin with the letter "Y". The Hebrew "YOD" is the point where English translates the Greek iota or yod to "J" in English later in English development, but in some places translates the Yod or Iota as a Z because that is what reflected in the tranliteration in early 1600 Elizabethan English.

The 26 Letter alphabet was eventually dropped to 24, and all of the spellings of Elisha changed with the language AS A WHOLE changing.

This HW is some character

 

[HisWitness]

The Elizabethan ENglish in 1611 used "Z" in words that appeared to begin with the letter "Y". The Hebrew "YOD" is the point where English translates the Greek iota or yod to "J" in English later in English development, but in some places translates the Yod or Iota as a Z because that is what reflected in the tranliteration in early 1600 Elizabethan English.

The 26 Letter alphabet was eventually dropped to 24, and all of the spellings of Elisha changed with the language AS A WHOLE changing.

This HW is some character

now why would they translate names with the Z that meant God is Zeus--that's exactly what the name meant spelled Eli-zeus--God is Zeus ??

 

[DrJamesAch]

now why would they translate names with the Z that meant God is Zeus--that's exactly what the name meant spelled Eli-zeus--God is Zeus ??

Saying that God is Zeus is YOUR TRANSLATION not the Bibles. You are bootstrapping an Old English version of Z and Y to other usages of the Bible that translate Jesus that APPEAR as "Zeus" if you change the sigma "S" to a Z, and then creating your own conjunction. Not only does the Bible not do this but it is a warped way of viewing language period. I can make you name equal 666 if I use the reductions that you use to make a word fit your ideology.

 

[HisWitness]

now why would they translate names with the Z that meant God is Zeus--that's exactly what the name meant spelled Eli-zeus--God is Zeus ??

also check this out--easter was added to the same 1611 KJV version

http://www.midacts.net/easter/index.html

 

[DrJamesAch]

now why would they translate names with the Z that meant God is Zeus--that's exactly what the name meant spelled Eli-zeus--God is Zeus ??

Dude are you that dense? It sounds like Zues TO YOU because in TODAY"S ENGLISH that is what it sounds like. In 1611, that was not what it stood for. You are arguing from the fallacy of an anachronism and trying to make it current.

 

[HisWitness]

Saying that God is Zeus is YOUR TRANSLATION not the Bibles. You are bootstrapping an Old English version of Z and Y to other usages of the Bible that translate Jesus that APPEAR as "Zeus" if you change the sigma "S" to a Z, and then creating your own conjunction. Not only does the Bible not do this but it is a warped way of viewing language period. I can make you name equal 666 if I use the reductions that you use to make a word fit your ideology.

I said the Eli-zeus spelling meant god is zeus

 

[HisWitness]

Dude are you that dense? It sounds like Zues TO YOU because in TODAY"S ENGLISH that is what it sounds like. In 1611, that was not what it stood for. You are arguing from the fallacy of an anachronism and trying to make it current.

you are from Israel and don't even understand the Hebrew sounding and meaning of names ?????? how important they were and are ???

jesus sounds nothing like Joshua
Yeshua sounds like Joshua and keeps it original Hebrew meaning

Eli-seus sounds like zeus
jesus sounds like zeus with the sus

 

[Steadfast Fred]

Helllllooooo?...

Dr Ach explained that. Elizeus did not mean God is Zeus.

For one thing, the pronunciations were different than you ascribe to them.

You could learn a lot from Dr Ach, if only you would drop your cultish notions and pay attention.

 

[Steadfast Fred]

The Greeks called God Theos, not El. The New Testament was not written in Hebrew. Had the wanted to say, as you wrongfully claim, that God is zeus, they would have prefaced Elisha's name with Theos, not El.

 

[DrJamesAch]

also check this out--easter was added to the same 1611 KJV version

http://www.midacts.net/easter/index.html

OK well now if we are going to be posting links for other arguments which you have now switched to attacking the KJV, then I'll post some to.

Easter is the correct word in Acts 12:4 and this is why

 

[Steadfast Fred]

OK well now if we are going to be posting links for other arguments which you have now switched to attacking the KJV, then I'll post some to.

Easter is the correct word in Acts 12:4 and this is why

Will does an excellent job proving Easter is the correct word.