savedbymercy
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You have scripture for that statement ?
You have scripture for that statement ?
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Saved by Grace not of works !
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I don't need one. It is not a matter of doctrine.dhk
You have scripture for that statement ?
Check a grammar book.
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A sure mark of false religion ! -
A sure indication of a false religion, no matter how much with their lips they honor God and Christ [Isa 29:13] and their message of salvation seems to be true [ Matt 24:24; 2 Cor 11:13-15], yet without fail, they will add the works of man, something man must do [to perform (an act, duty, role, etc.)] like believe, or accept, in order to get saved; In some kind of way, Salvation must be conditioned on man ! Every false way or religion teaches this, even if they never say it , or even if they deny it, the inference is telling !
Folks anyone teaching that Salvation is conditioned in any way, shape or form upon man doing something, is Antichrist; for Christ alone saves a sinner from A to Z. Every aspect of One's Salvation, past present and future is solely conditioned on Christ's Work of the Cross plus nothing !
So you religionists who appeal to Eph 2:8 in support of your false conclusion that faith is a condition to perform by man in order to get saved, then you should consider the very next verse that reads Eph 2:9
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Not of works means conditions or performances by man, lest any man should boast !
A sure indication of a false religion, no matter how much with their lips they honor God and Christ [Isa 29:13] and their message of salvation seems to be true [ Matt 24:24; 2 Cor 11:13-15], yet without fail, they will add the works of man, something man must do [to perform (an act, duty, role, etc.)] like believe, or accept, in order to get saved; In some kind of way, Salvation must be conditioned on man ! Every false way or religion teaches this, even if they never say it , or even if they deny it, the inference is telling !
Folks anyone teaching that Salvation is conditioned in any way, shape or form upon man doing something, is Antichrist; for Christ alone saves a sinner from A to Z. Every aspect of One's Salvation, past present and future is solely conditioned on Christ's Work of the Cross plus nothing !
So you religionists who appeal to Eph 2:8 in support of your false conclusion that faith is a condition to perform by man in order to get saved, then you should consider the very next verse that reads Eph 2:9
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Not of works means conditions or performances by man, lest any man should boast !
This is post #92 on page 10. It has already been answered. Does it need to be answered again??A sure mark of false religion !
A sure indication of a false religion, no matter how much with their lips they honor God and Christ [Isa 29:13] and their message of salvation seems to be true [ Matt 24:24; 2 Cor 11:13-15], yet without fail, they will add the works of man, something man must do [to perform (an act, duty, role, etc.)] like believe, or accept, in order to get saved; In some kind of way, Salvation must be conditioned on man ! Every false way or religion teaches this, even if they never say it , or even if they deny it, the inference is telling !
Folks anyone teaching that Salvation is conditioned in any way, shape or form upon man doing something, is Antichrist; for Christ alone saves a sinner from A to Z. Every aspect of One's Salvation, past present and future is solely conditioned on Christ's Work of the Cross plus nothing !
So you religionists who appeal to Eph 2:8 in support of your false conclusion that faith is a condition to perform by man in order to get saved, then you should consider the very next verse that reads Eph 2:9
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Not of works means conditions or performances by man, lest any man should boast !
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Boasting about Believing !
Those who teach error preach and believe today that sinful, spiritually dead, unregenerate sinners, has the ability to believe on Christ; however this is a lie, one which scripture does not teach, in fact it is said of some that they could not believe, even in light of many miracles Jn 12:39,38
39Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
Thats because the Arm of the Lord had not been revealed to them vs 38
38That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
Mans ability to believe on the Lord is a lie against the Truth, if this were so or true, then the natural man, the carnal man, the man of flesh can do something spiritually that pleases God Heb 11:6, but in the flesh man cannot please God Rom 8:8
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
The unregenerate man cannot or does not have the ability to please God, which believing on Christ does please God. Being in the flesh is antithesis to being born of the Spirit Jn 3:6-7
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
There is no in between, one is either born of the Spirit or not ! So consequently the flesh cannot [without ability] to obey God's Commands, which one is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ Acts 16:30-31
30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
The word believe here is in the greek an imperative which is:
The imperative mood corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.
That this command is something that pleases God cannot be denied 1 Jn 3:22-23
22And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
Anyone therefore teaching that man, the unregenerate man, the man not born of the Spirit can believe on Christ Savingly, a Spiritual Act, they are Liars, they lie against the Truth. That even goes for myself ! If me or anyone teaches that, they are Liars !
Those who teach error preach and believe today that sinful, spiritually dead, unregenerate sinners, has the ability to believe on Christ; however this is a lie, one which scripture does not teach, in fact it is said of some that they could not believe, even in light of many miracles Jn 12:39,38
39Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
Thats because the Arm of the Lord had not been revealed to them vs 38
38That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
Mans ability to believe on the Lord is a lie against the Truth, if this were so or true, then the natural man, the carnal man, the man of flesh can do something spiritually that pleases God Heb 11:6, but in the flesh man cannot please God Rom 8:8
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
The unregenerate man cannot or does not have the ability to please God, which believing on Christ does please God. Being in the flesh is antithesis to being born of the Spirit Jn 3:6-7
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
There is no in between, one is either born of the Spirit or not ! So consequently the flesh cannot [without ability] to obey God's Commands, which one is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ Acts 16:30-31
30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
The word believe here is in the greek an imperative which is:
The imperative mood corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.
That this command is something that pleases God cannot be denied 1 Jn 3:22-23
22And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
Anyone therefore teaching that man, the unregenerate man, the man not born of the Spirit can believe on Christ Savingly, a Spiritual Act, they are Liars, they lie against the Truth. That even goes for myself ! If me or anyone teaches that, they are Liars !
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