Many of us in the SBC agree we are independent!
What makes you think we are not?
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SBC Disfellowships 2 Churches at February Executive Committee Meeting for Appointing Women as Pastors
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What makes you think we are not?
I don't know much about the SBC, but our IFB independently supports missionaries.
Back in the day, don't know about now, that was a difference.
So, what are you independent from?
Good!Amen and Amen!
SBC Disfellowships 2 Churches at February Executive Committee Meeting for Appointing Women as Pastors
The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) has chosen to discontinue its relationship with two congregations that employ women as pastors.churchleaders.com
1) Your "IFB" what? or do you mean your local IFB church?
2) Our local SBC church does financially support the SBC cooperative missions program
3) We are NOT required to support the SBC cooperative missions
4) Our local SBC church does support an IFB missionary (he serves in Canada)
Why would you not know if your local church currently supports missions
I guess my post was confusing, let me clarify.
All the IFB Churches I know or have known independently support missionaries.
Back in the day when I was a kid and up that was one of the noticeable in the SB and the IFB.
I don't much about the SB, or if that is still a difference in the SB and IFB Churches.
OLD SARGE
Active Member
SBC is not as strict as the IFB though that is changing. My grandson is a youth pastor for an IFB church where men can have beards. even the pastor. I was IFB for 40+ years. Took an exploratory detour for about six years in an Assembly of God church and now a member of a Southern Baptist Texas Convention Church that follows the 2000 Baptist Faith and Message.
The IFB Church I've been in for the past 30 years is not as strict as the one I was raised up in, but still strict by most standards.
I do not agree with your terminology.
I'm not aware of a "the IFB". There are however thousands of IFB churches.
What is this "I was IFB"?
You may have been a member or pastor of an IFB church, but You were not IFB.
Let me un-confuse you!
There are two basic differences with SBC churches and un-affiliated Baptist churches AKA IFB churches
1) We both financially support missionaries.
A.
1. The SBC has two mission boards - 1) Home & 2) Foreign - an in essence of employees of the boards. They do not have to worry if their support will come
2. There are scores of IFB mission boards. Each must have a home staff. Thus a lot of $$ cost to run those offices. Suppose 3 or 4 very small mission boards were to merge - think of the cost savings.
B. IFB has: Missionaries who must spend months if not years raising support (Esp initial term missionaries) They must contact hundreds of churches to hope that 10-20% will invite them - and then trust that at least 40% of them will actually give support. Then they have to be concerned about some of those supporting churches may have some hard months and forced to miss a few months. Then there is the possibility that the church would close.
C. We both know our missionaries. - Yes, the IFB may be more closely attached - but SBC can be just as attached. In addition we do have mission conferences where several missionaries will come and visit our churches.
2)
a) Fellowship - SBC loves fellowship we have local Associations, State Conventions as well as the National SBC. BTW, a church can join just one of the three, two or as most churches do - be in all three. In fact some bordering states/commonwealths - a church may be in two State conventions and/or local associations. In addition at least one state (TX) and one Commonwealth (VA) each have two state conventions. Again - it is up to each independent local church as to which groups. they want to be part of. (Our local association, the Central NY) has a member church in Scranton, PA!
b) there are some fellowship groups with IFB - but there are some IFB that do not want to fellowship with anyone else. Here is one extreme example. When I worked in Christian Radio - in West VA; I happened to visit 2 seperate IFB churches. Both pastors were grads of Hyles-Anderson college. They lived about 20 miles away from each other. When I saw them about 6 months later - neither had attempted to contact each other.. Then, of course, many IFB want nothing to do with SBC pastors or churches.
Bottom line - both groups each have advantages and dis-advantages. We both have the same goal - present the blessed Gospel of Jesus Christ to a lost and dying world. Instead of tearing each other down - lets work together.
Also, I should mention that I have been pastor (as well as "regular" member) of both SBC and IFB churches!
There are some other differences but I don't think now is the time to bring that up.
then start a new thread
I would be very interested!
Maybe in the future when the season arises.
Nothing good could come from it now, or maybe nothing good could ever come from it.