SBC in the news & not in a good way

[FollowTheWay]

There are far more RCC than baptists in leadership positions in America. More that are judges, lawyers, congress members, members of the media, ...

The RCC is just evil. From the early days it has been a haven for perverts. It has taken the life and lively hood from believers and followers of Scriptures. It remains filled will excess and lies.

If someone is truly redeemed and knowledgable about Scripture principles, they will withdraw from fellowship and strongly proclaim against the RCC.

The RCC is nothing but a pimp for all matters of self indulgence.

Catholic majority in the Supreme Court (anti-abortion) but certainly not in the Congress. There has been only one Catholic President and two Catholic Vice-Presidents. including Mike Pence a self-described Evangelical Catholic.
Congress
According to the Pew Research Center, Catholics represent 30.5% of the United States Congress as of January 2019. There are 141 Representatives and 22 Senators that are Catholic, which split as 99 Democrats and 64 Republicans.

Supreme Court
In the early 1980s, there was one Catholic justice. This changed in the mid 1980s when President Ronald Reagan nominated Antonin Scalia and Anthony Kennedy to the court, both Catholic. The first President Bush nominated Clarence Thomas (a Catholic who at the time of his appointment was attending Episcopalian services, though he has since become an active Catholic) along with David Souter, an Episcopalian. The second President George W. Bush appointed John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both Catholics. President Barack Obama appointed Catholic Sonia Sotomayor. For the seven years beginning with the 2009 appointment of Sotomayor and ending with the 2016 death of Scalia, the Supreme Court had a Catholic majority of five justices, including Chief Justice Roberts.

Your facts???

 

[Walter]

NAMBLA Losing Members to the Catholic Church

NAMBLA Losing Members to the Catholic Church
November 2, 2006 by hecubus

Having seen the powerful documentary Deliver Us From Evil (required viewing for all Catholics) this past weekend at my local theater, my belief that the Catholic Church is nothing more than a front for NAMBLA has been reinforced tenfold.
The movie follows the carousings of Father Oliver O’Grady as he uses the Catholic cloak to diddle the private parts of young girls and boys, all under the strict supervision and full support of the Catholic Church. Whenever the heat from parents or law enforcement grew a bit too hot, O’Grady’s fellow NAMBLA members such as Cardinal Roger Mahoney (notable to those of us living in Southern California), forgave and blessed the Irish pederast, and sent him on his way to yet another community so that O’Grady could rack up more victims in the name of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, the Catholic Church, and all those who call themselves Catholics.

FACT! Less than 1% of all Priests are accused of this act. Try to remember the size of the Catholic Church, over a billion members and hundreds of thousands of clergy. There are many good and holy men serving the Catholic Church that are indeed innocent! There are people who will report something that never happened to make money.

 

[church mouse guy]

FACT! Less than 1% of all Priests are accused of this act. Try to remember the size of the Catholic Church, over a billion members and hundreds of thousands of clergy. There are many good and holy men serving the Catholic Church that are indeed innocent! There are people who will report something that never happened to make money.

The current crisis in Catholicism does not deal with child molesting and it does not deal with priests raping nuns, although those things occur. It deals with homosexuality and the rape of teenage boys and seminarians by people such as McCarrick, who is living nicely in rural Kansas, having been kicked out of a multi-million dollar RCC mansion in DC and it deals with the coverup of this homosexuality and rape by people such as Cardinal Wuerl, who still runs Washington DC and people such as Pope Francis who reinstated McCarrick, his old friend, according to Archbishop Vigano.

Catholics themselves estimate that the number of active homosexuals in the American churches may be as high as 30% and that orders such as Jesuits and Franciscans have a rate of 60% homosexuals in their ranks while the Vatican staff is considered 50% homosexual. Those numbers are so high that it seems unlikely that those calling for renewal will be successful as their efforts appear to be mostly quixotic. The laity are complicit as long as they continue to fill the collection plates of the Lavender Mafia. Nor can the Catholic hierarchy make much of a stand against infanticide and we recently saw the Bishop of Covington, Kentucky, side with Black Hebrew Israelite cult members and a lying Nathan Phillips against minors in his diocese who marched against abortion.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

FACT! Less than 1% of all Priests are accused of this act. Try to remember the size of the Catholic Church, over a billion members and hundreds of thousands of clergy. There are many good and holy men serving the Catholic Church that are indeed innocent! There are people who will report something that never happened to make money.

Updated, current FACT!!

Eighty per cent of Vatican priests are gay according to explosive new book | Daily Mail Online
Eighty per cent of Vatican priests are gay and living in the closet, according to an explosive new book to be published next week.

The 570-page expose, titled In the Closet of the Vatican, claims that four in five clerics in the Roman Catholic Church are homosexuals - but aren't necessarily sexually active.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

As Baptist preachers do not carry the sacraments around in their suit pocket, the ordinances are vested in the local church, So, your correct defrocking is meaningless. As for excommunication, he can be disfellowshiped or removed from a particular church's membership.

SNIP As has been pointed out, Baptist churches are autonomous. The leadership answers only to the membership. Therefore, there is no "defrocking" or "excommunication" process in place. To my knowledge, the removal of "ordination" might be the only recourse. The impact of that would be of little effect.

 

[Adonia]

Updated, current FACT!!

Eighty per cent of Vatican priests are gay according to explosive new book | Daily Mail Online
Eighty per cent of Vatican priests are gay and living in the closet, according to an explosive new book to be published next week.

The 570-page expose, titled In the Closet of the Vatican, claims that four in five clerics in the Roman Catholic Church are homosexuals - but aren't necessarily sexually active.

Fact you say? Do you believe everything you read? While I do not doubt that there are homosexual priests, the figure of eighty-one percent seems a bit excessive. That would mean that out of the last 3 parish priests where I attended church, 3.75% of them were gay, and having come to know these men as I did I sincerely doubt that.

In his book and according to the article: "Martel, a former adviser to the French government who is openly gay, claims he spoke with 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and monsignors, 45 papal ambassadors or diplomatic officials, 11 Swiss guards and more than 200 priests and seminarians as research for the book".

He (Martel) CLAIMS to have spoken to all those people, but no one really knows for sure that this claim is really true. He is also openly gay, so maybe he wants a portray a gay clergy to the number of 81% to validate his own homosexuality.

 

[Adonia]

There are people who will report something that never happened to make money

As books like the "Da Vinci Codes" have proven. Writings that portray the various Vatican intrigues and salacious happenings amongst the clergy are always able to find more than enough customers. Now, can we get back to the sins of the SBC?

 

[church mouse guy]

Updated, current FACT!!

Eighty per cent of Vatican priests are gay according to explosive new book | Daily Mail Online
Eighty per cent of Vatican priests are gay and living in the closet, according to an explosive new book to be published next week.

The 570-page expose, titled In the Closet of the Vatican, claims that four in five clerics in the Roman Catholic Church are homosexuals - but aren't necessarily sexually active.

I believe it because the author is an insider and there are police reports about gay parties inside the Vatican.

On the issue of Baptist church sex crimes, wouldn't the church give a bad report? We had a case at a local Baptist Church where the pastor divorced his wife and married a woman in the congregation that he alledgedly dated before the divorce. He owned the church building so he could not be dislodged but almost everyone left and built a new building a few miles away.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

I believe it because the author is an insider and there are police reports about gay parties inside the Vatican.

On the issue of Baptist church sex crimes, wouldn't the church give a bad report? We had a case at a local Baptist Church where the pastor divorced his wife and married a woman in the congregation that he alledgedly dated before the divorce. He owned the church building so he could not be dislodged but almost everyone left and built a new building a few miles away.

To whom would they address the report? There is no hierarchy of authority within the Baptist community. The local Baptist church can choose to associate with a Baptist organization (SBC, NAB, etc.) if their doctrine is in alignment. However, the only recourse the organisation has is to dissolve the relationship.

There is a large Baptist close to where we live. The pastor, a very gifted speaker, was dismissed for misconduct from a Baptist church a few miles from their "campus".

God delays His judgement for His reasons. To Him be the glory.

 

[church mouse guy]

To whom would they address the report? There is no hierarchy of authority within the Baptist community. The local Baptist church can choose to associate with a Baptist organization (SBC, NAB, etc.) if their doctrine is in alignment. However, the only recourse the organisation has is to dissolve the relationship.

There is a large Baptist close to where we live. The pastor, a very gifted speaker, was dismissed for misconduct from a Baptist church a few miles from their "campus".

God delays His judgement for His reasons. To Him be the glory.

Chaucer wrote of clean sheep and excrement caked shepherds.