Scattering Ashes of a loved one.

And some do believe that cremation is disrespect to the body since it is purposeful, delibertate destruction of the body.

And not me?? :tear:

 

If God does not want our bodies to be burned, why does the body break down into ashes? It is only a question of time. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, from earth we came and to earth we return.

Cheers,

Jim

 

The proper term for what you are talking about is "interment," not burial. The Japanese bury the ashes of their loved ones after cremation. How do you know that was not done in the Bible? You don't. We know little about the culture of those days.

 

If burial is mandated in the Bible, why wasn't jesus "buried"? He was entombed. A large cavety closed over by a huge rounded rock with a flat edge. This was someone's elses grave, so it must have been planned ahead.

Cheers,

Jim

 

The proper term is burial, just as the Bible says. Nevertheless, the two have similar meanings so I don't know what your beef is here.

I know what the Bible says, and it does not say God's people were cremated. It does say, however, that they were buried. So, when someone asks how to care for someone who has died, I would recommend burial.

 

If cremation is a problem because it is 'deliberate destruction of the body', then why don't Christians, at least, demand mummification?

 

Gershom: //And who is making stuff up???? I am advising people to look to the Bible where the scale tips over in favor of burial.//

Use bigger letters, bigger letters are more true than small letters

Please give the scriptures I should use in my will.
I want my ashes to be buried.
Before I pay $10,000 for a funeral, I want HARD SCRIPTURE
evidence. I'd rather my family just pay $2000 for a party
and $600 for a cremation.

What part of my present human body does GOD need to make
my glorified eternal body?

 

That was burial for them.

 

GENESIS 15:15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.

GENESIS 23:19 And after this, Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Machpelah before Mamre: the same [is] Hebron in the land of Canaan.

GENESIS 25:9 And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which [is] before Mamre;

GENESIS 25:10 The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife.

GENESIS 35:8 But Deborah Rebekah's nurse died, and she was buried beneath Bethel under an oak: and the name of it was called Allonbachuth.

GENESIS 35:19 And Rachel died, and was buried in the way to Ephrath, which [is] Bethlehem.

GENESIS 35:29 And Isaac gave up the ghost, and died, and was gathered unto his people, [being] old and full of days: and his sons Esau and Jacob buried him.

GENESIS 48:7 And as for me, when I came from Padan, Rachel died by me in the land of Canaan in the way, when yet [there was] but a little way to come unto Ephrath: and I buried her there in the way of Ephrath; the same [is] Bethlehem.

GENESIS 49:31 There they buried Abraham and Sarah his wife; there they buried Isaac and Rebekah his wife; and there I buried Leah.

GENESIS 50:13 For his sons carried him into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.

GENESIS 50:14 And Joseph returned into Egypt, he, and his brethren, and all that went up with him to bury his father, after he had buried his father.

NUMBERS 20:1 Then came the children of Israel, [even] the whole congregation, into the desert of Zin in the first month: and the people abode in Kadesh; and Miriam died there, and was buried there.

DEUTERONOMY 10:6 And the children of Israel took their journey from Beeroth of the children of Jaakan to Mosera: there Aaron died, and there he was buried; and Eleazar his son ministered in the priest's office in his stead.

DEUTERONOMY 34:6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.

JOSHUA 24:30 And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathserah, which [is] in mount Ephraim, on the north side of the hill of Gaash.

JOSHUA 24:32 And the bones of Joseph, which the children of Israel brought up out of Egypt, buried they in Shechem, in a parcel of ground which Jacob bought of the sons of Hamor the father of Shechem for an hundred pieces of silver: and it became the inheritance of the children of Joseph.

JOSHUA 24:33 And Eleazar the son of Aaron died; and they buried him in a hill [that pertained to] Phinehas his son, which was given him in mount Ephraim.

JUDGES 2:9 And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.

JUDGES 8:32 And Gideon the son of Joash died in a good old age, and was buried in the sepulchre of Joash his father, in Ophrah of the Abiezrites.

JUDGES 10:2 And he judged Israel twenty and three years, and died, and was buried in Shamir.

JUDGES 10:5 And Jair died, and was buried in Camon.

JUDGES 12:7 And Jephthah judged Israel six years. Then died Jephthah the Gileadite, and was buried in [one of] the cities of Gilead.

JUDGES 12:10 Then died Ibzan, and was buried at Bethlehem.

JUDGES 12:12 And Elon the Zebulonite died, and was buried in Aijalon in the country of Zebulun.

JUDGES 12:15 And Abdon the son of Hillel the Pirathonite died, and was buried in Pirathon in the land of Ephraim, in the mount of the Amalekites.

JUDGES 16:31 Then his brethren and all the house of his father came down, and took him, and brought [him] up, and buried him between Zorah and Eshtaol in the buryingplace of Manoah his father. And he judged Israel twenty years.

RUTH 1:17 Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the LORD do so to me, and more also, [if ought] but death part thee and me.

1SAMUEL 25:1 And Samuel died; and all the Israelites were gathered together, and lamented him, and buried him in his house at Ramah. And David arose, and went down to the wilderness of Paran.

1SAMUEL 28:3 Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had lamented him, and buried him in Ramah, even in his own city. And Saul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land.

1SAMUEL 31:13 And they took their bones, and buried [them] under a tree at Jabesh, and fasted seven days.

2SAMUEL 2:4 And the men of Judah came, and there they anointed David king over the house of Judah. And they told David, saying, [That] the men of Jabeshgilead [were they] that buried Saul.

2SAMUEL 2:5 And David sent messengers unto the men of Jabeshgilead, and said unto them, Blessed [be] ye of the LORD, that ye have shewed this kindness unto your lord, [even] unto Saul, and have buried him.

2SAMUEL 2:32 And they took up Asahel, and buried him in the sepulchre of his father, which [was in] Bethlehem. And Joab and his men went all night, and they came to Hebron at break of day.

2SAMUEL 3:32 And they buried Abner in Hebron: and the king lifted up his voice, and wept at the grave of Abner; and all the people wept.

2SAMUEL 4:12 And David commanded his young men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged [them] up over the pool in Hebron. But they took the head of Ishbosheth, and buried [it] in the sepulchre of Abner in Hebron.

2SAMUEL 17:23 And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled [his] ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father.

2SAMUEL 19:37 Let thy servant, I pray thee, turn back again, that I may die in mine own city, [and be buried] by the grave of my father and of my mother. But behold thy servant Chimham; let him go over with my lord the king; and do to him what shall seem good unto thee.

2SAMUEL 21:14 And the bones of Saul and Jonathan his son buried they in the country of Benjamin in Zelah, in the sepulchre of Kish his father: and they performed all that the king commanded. And after that God was intreated for the land.

1KINGS 2:10 So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David.

1KINGS 2:34 So Benaiah the son of Jehoiada went up, and fell upon him, and slew him: and he was buried in his own house in the wilderness.

1KINGS 11:43 And Solomon slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David his father: and Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead.

1KINGS 13:31 And it came to pass, after he had buried him, that he spake to his sons, saying, When I am dead, then bury me in the sepulchre wherein the man of God [is] buried; lay my bones beside his bones:

1KINGS 14:18 And they buried him; and all Israel mourned for him, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by the hand of his servant Ahijah the prophet.

1KINGS 14:31 And Rehoboam slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David. And his mother's name [was] Naamah an Ammonitess. And Abijam his son reigned in his stead.

1KINGS 15:8 And Abijam slept with his fathers; and they buried him in the city of David: and Asa his son reigned in his stead.

1KINGS 15:24 And Asa slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Jehoshaphat his son reigned in his stead.

1KINGS 16:6 So Baasha slept with his fathers, and was buried in Tirzah: and Elah his son reigned in his stead.

1KINGS 16:28 So Omri slept with his fathers, and was buried in Samaria: and Ahab his son reigned in his stead.

1KINGS 22:37 So the king died, and was brought to Samaria; and they buried the king in Samaria.

1KINGS 22:50 And Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Jehoram his son reigned in his stead.


cont'd...

 

2KINGS 8:24 And Joram slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David: and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 9:28 And his servants carried him in a chariot to Jerusalem, and buried him in his sepulchre with his fathers in the city of David.

2KINGS 10:35 And Jehu slept with his fathers: and they buried him in Samaria. And Jehoahaz his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 12:21 For Jozachar the son of Shimeath, and Jehozabad the son of Shomer, his servants, smote him, and he died; and they buried him with his fathers in the city of David: and Amaziah his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 13:9 And Jehoahaz slept with his fathers; and they buried him in Samaria: and Joash his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 13:13 And Joash slept with his fathers; and Jeroboam sat upon his throne: and Joash was buried in Samaria with the kings of Israel.

2KINGS 13:20 And Elisha died, and they buried him. And the bands of the Moabites invaded the land at the coming in of the year.

2KINGS 14:16 And Jehoash slept with his fathers, and was buried in Samaria with the kings of Israel; and Jeroboam his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 14:20 And they brought him on horses: and he was buried at Jerusalem with his fathers in the city of David.

2KINGS 15:7 So Azariah slept with his fathers; and they buried him with his fathers in the city of David: and Jotham his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 15:38 And Jotham slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Ahaz his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 16:20 And Ahaz slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David: and Hezekiah his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 21:18 And Manasseh slept with his fathers, and was buried in the garden of his own house, in the garden of Uzza: and Amon his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 21:26 And he was buried in his sepulchre in the garden of Uzza: and Josiah his son reigned in his stead.

2KINGS 23:30 And his servants carried him in a chariot dead from Megiddo, and brought him to Jerusalem, and buried him in his own sepulchre. And the people of the land took Jehoahaz the son of Josiah, and anointed him, and made him king in his father's stead.

1CHRONICLES 10:12 They arose, all the valiant men, and took away the body of Saul, and the bodies of his sons, and brought them to Jabesh, and buried their bones under the oak in Jabesh, and fasted seven days.

2CHRONICLES 9:31 And Solomon slept with his fathers, and he was buried in the city of David his father: and Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 12:16 And Rehoboam slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David: and Abijah his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 14:1 So Abijah slept with his fathers, and they buried him in the city of David: and Asa his son reigned in his stead. In his days the land was quiet ten years.

2CHRONICLES 16:14 And they buried him in his own sepulchres, which he had made for himself in the city of David, and laid him in the bed which was filled with sweet odours and divers kinds [of spices] prepared by the apothecaries' art: and they made a very great burning for him.

2CHRONICLES 21:1 Now Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David. And Jehoram his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 21:20 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years, and departed without being desired. Howbeit they buried him in the city of David, but not in the sepulchres of the kings.

2CHRONICLES 22:9 And he sought Ahaziah: and they caught him, (for he was hid in Samaria,) and brought him to Jehu: and when they had slain him, they buried him: Because, said they, he [is] the son of Jehoshaphat, who sought the LORD with all his heart. So the house of Ahaziah had no power to keep still the kingdom.

2CHRONICLES 24:16 And they buried him in the city of David among the kings, because he had done good in Israel, both toward God, and toward his house.

2CHRONICLES 24:25 And when they were departed from him, (for they left him in great diseases,) his own servants conspired against him for the blood of the sons of Jehoiada the priest, and slew him on his bed, and he died: and they buried him in the city of David, but they buried him not in the sepulchres of the kings.

2CHRONICLES 25:28 And they brought him upon horses, and buried him with his fathers in the city of Judah.

2CHRONICLES 26:23 So Uzziah slept with his fathers, and they buried him with his fathers in the field of the burial which [belonged] to the kings; for they said, He [is] a leper: and Jotham his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 27:9 And Jotham slept with his fathers, and they buried him in the city of David: and Ahaz his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 28:27 And Ahaz slept with his fathers, and they buried him in the city, [even] in Jerusalem: but they brought him not into the sepulchres of the kings of Israel: and Hezekiah his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 32:33 And Hezekiah slept with his fathers, and they buried him in the chiefest of the sepulchres of the sons of David: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem did him honour at his death. And Manasseh his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 33:20 So Manasseh slept with his fathers, and they buried him in his own house: and Amon his son reigned in his stead.

2CHRONICLES 35:24 His servants therefore took him out of that chariot, and put him in the second chariot that he had; and they brought him to Jerusalem, and he died, and was buried in [one of] the sepulchres of his fathers. And all Judah and Jerusalem mourned for Josiah.

JOB 27:15 Those that remain of him shall be buried in death: and his widows shall not weep.

ECCLESIASTES 8:10 And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this [is] also vanity.

JEREMIAH 8:2 And they shall spread them before the sun, and the moon, and all the host of heaven, whom they have loved, and whom they have served, and after whom they have walked, and whom they have sought, and whom they have worshipped: they shall not be gathered, nor be buried; they shall be for dung upon the face of the earth.

JEREMIAH 16:4 They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; [but] they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

JEREMIAH 16:6 Both the great and the small shall die in this land: they shall not be buried, neither shall [men] lament for them, nor cut themselves, nor make themselves bald for them:

JEREMIAH 20:6 And thou, Pashur, and all that dwell in thine house shall go into captivity: and thou shalt come to Babylon, and there thou shalt die, and shalt be buried there, thou, and all thy friends, to whom thou hast prophesied lies.

JEREMIAH 22:19 He shall be buried with the burial of an ass, drawn and cast forth beyond the gates of Jerusalem.

JEREMIAH 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

EZEKIEL 39:15 And the passengers [that] pass through the land, when [any] seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.

MATTHEW 14:12 And his disciples came, and took up the body, and buried it, and went and told Jesus.

LUKE 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

ACTS 2:29 Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

ACTS 5:6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried [him] out, and buried [him].

ACTS 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband [are] at the door, and shall carry thee out.

ACTS 5:10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying [her] forth, buried [her] by her husband.

1CORINTHIANS 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

 

What God can do is not the issue.

 

I love when people waste space typing out a host of verses as if none of us have Bibles........

Now, the most common form of burial in the Middle East was either a hole in the ground, a cavern for the rich, or stones piled over a body to delay decay because of the extreme heat and decomposition was considered to be a disgrace to the deceased.

The cavernous tomb was the exception and not the rule.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Not to mention the words of Job;

Job 14:13¶O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

Mat 8:22But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

 

Nevertheless, Jim...

Nowhere in Scripture can it be found that God's people were cremated. I believe as Marcia wrote earlier,

Gershom was asked to produce Scripture dealing with God's people being buried, can you produce any to show we should be cremated before burial?

I didn't notice the men in Acts cremated Ananias or Sapphira before burial.

And Jesus was buried. The Word of God says He was. And we are commanded to preach it as a burial.

 

Joh 19:40 (KJV1611 Edition):
Then tooke they the body of Iesus, & wound
it in linnen clothes, with the spices,
as the maner of the Iewes is to burie:

Do you intend to be buried in the manner of the Jews?

 

Amos, chapter 2



1: Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Moab, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because he burned the bones of the king of Edom into lime:

 

I respectfully disagree.

What God can do is the issue.

Rev 20:13 (KJV1611 Edition):
And the sea gaue vp the dead which were in it: ...

Needless to say, the molecules making up the
DNA are disolved into the sea and throughly mixed.

 

Why are bones kept?

Because flesh rots fast; the bones rot slower.

How many human cells does it take for God to reconstruct
the soul of a person?

 

Resurrection is not what we talking about. We talking about the temple of God, and the destruction of it.
God will have no problem with the resurrection regardless.

2 Corinthians, chapter 6


"16": And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.