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So mercy is shown on the innocent (but born in sin)?

Is this mercy and love extended to those who are similarly innocent in that they are born,live and die without ever hearing the glorious gospel? If not, what is the functional difference between a dead infant and an 'unreached' adult?

What about the 'called but not drawn' class who still perish? Can we say that no mercy nor love was extended towards them? The loving and merciful God will not as much as throw a lifeline to these yet ONLY He can save them

 

Yes we are not perfect before we sin (we are born/conceived imperfect) but are we condemned before we sin? If yes, then mere 'sin inclination' is punishable by eternal damnation.

And if 'sin inclination' attracts eternal damnation, it is sin in itself...which is what Catholicism Original Sin is all about.

But Romans is clear; 'wages of sin is death'. Sin is what is punishable not 'inclination to sin'

 

Yes I do, which is why all I do is evangelism and apologetics outside my day job.

My motives notwithstanding, you can't run away from the fact that many live and die unreached

They are not innocent because they have yet to sin but rather because they can't receive a gospel they have never heard, just as an infant.

Now, since 'all have sinned', that dead foetus is as a wretch as the adult unreached, which made me wonder whether the mercy extended to one set of wretch (infants) is availed to the other

 

Are infants sinless?

You are overly eager to misunderstand. Tell me. Are infants sinless or are they conceived/born full of sin?

 

The smartest thing I've heard in decades

 

Scripture please.

 

Yes their is severally retarded are innocent at adult hood and anyone who doesn't understand right from wrong. I would still like to see Adam's sin applied to man in scripture/
MB

 

Jon C;
You Said; [QUOTE} No, they actually derived their doctrines from Scripture…i.e., the Word of God…although you disagree with their interpretations, conclusions, and/or application. You are wrong to state that Calvinists get their beliefs from men instead of God just as they would be wrong to state the same of you.[/QUOTE]
Well here you go You think I was wrong when I wrote what you are replying to. Please show me where in scripture that it says men are totally depraved. It's obvious to me not all men are totally depraved. Oh I've read where some men were evil continually but not all men. Yet this was before the flood and those men were destroyed. Yet Calvinist apply this to them selves.. Show me with scripture where there is just one Gentile in the Bible who is elect. Don't tel us Paul called them that because he was in another country.. Hewas speaking to jews who were trying to convert the world. Show me where limited atonement is in the Bible. Show me where it says that men cannot resist God, then yes last of all show me where Saints are to persevere. Salvation is free we do not have to persevere to maintain it. It's there whether we work or not.
I've read quite a bit of the institutes. I suppose Calvin didn't understand Calvinism either.

Stop trying to make your own view of what these doctrines say because I take them literally just like every thing I read. None of these things come from scripture they come from men. If they come from scripture them look at scripture as a whole instead of a few verses at a time