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Senate GOP agrees to one-week delay on Kavanaugh confirmation to allow for FBI probe

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Rand Paul Calls For Investigation Into Who Doxxed Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans Rumor has it this came from DF’s office. They don’t mind putting people in harm’s way, or destroying anyone who gets in their way, as long as they get to keep dismembering the most innocent souls.
From the DNC/progressive playbook: aka "to make a fair play," aka "to go high," and when they admit it with a smirk or by wearing masks, aka "to act by any means necessary.":eek:
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Even when he started sniveling and crying ( boo hoo)!?! add to that his insulting and angry responses? This guy has zero gravitas based on poor tempriment. That alone did not play well with progressive women.
I have a hard time believing anything he could have honestly said in any way would ever appeal to the Hillary types. Did they like his low-key interview?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Maybe I’m just not keeping up, but I’m curious what presidential hopeful ever fit the bill for “1. True Conservative”?
Maybe I’m just not keeping up, but I’m curious what presidential hopeful ever fit the bill for “1. True Conservative”?
  1. Top 10 Greatest Conservative Presidents | Human Events
    humanevents.com/2011/02/20/top-10-greatest-conservative-presidents
      1. George Washington (1789-1797): After leading the Continental Army to victory in the American …
      2. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989): Reagan stared down the Soviet Union, bringing the Cold War to an …
      3. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865): Conservatives may not like his suspension of habeas corpus during …
      4. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929): “Silent Cal” presided over a booming economy as he slashed …
      See all full list on humanevents.com
  2. The Greatest Conservative President in American History
 

church mouse guy

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Even when he started sniveling and crying ( boo hoo)!?! add to that his insulting and angry responses? This guy has zero gravitas based on poor tempriment. That alone did not play well with progressive women.




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Sen. Graham said that people like you are going to pay a price for what you have done.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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  1. Top 10 Greatest Conservative Presidents | Human Events
    humanevents.com/2011/02/20/top-10-greatest-conservative-presidents
      1. George Washington (1789-1797): After leading the Continental Army to victory in the American …
      2. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989): Reagan stared down the Soviet Union, bringing the Cold War to an …
      3. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865): Conservatives may not like his suspension of habeas corpus during …
      4. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929): “Silent Cal” presided over a booming economy as he slashed …
      See all full list on humanevents.com
  2. The Greatest Conservative President in American History
Hmmm. Not sure most on the list really meet all of your criteria. I think the more modern ones don’t. May depend on definitions. It might be argued that some could be excused, as they were dealing with extreme situations.

Maybe it's too bad Coolidge didn't stick around for Black Monday and Tuesday, and the Great Depression. Would he have done better than Hoover, or was an FDR reign inevitable?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Hmmm. Not sure most on the list really meet all of your criteria. I think the more modern ones don’t. May depend on definitions. It might be argued that some could be excused, as they were dealing with extreme situations.

Maybe it's too bad Coolidge didn't stick around for Black Monday and Tuesday, and the Great Depression. Would he have done better than Hoover, or was an FDR reign inevitable?
At least none endorsed a “Boofer” into the highest court in the land.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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At least none endorsed a “Boofer” into the highest court in the land.
I’m rather certain we don’t know much of the youthful activities of all those former justices. For that to be possible, they would probably have to have kept sufficiently detailed calendars, decades later been falsely accused of heinous deeds, further smeared with the most implausible accusations, subjected to an interrogation under oath on national television, then condemned in the unthinking, hypocritical court of public opinion despite zero evidence of those original accusations, all of it orchestrated and fueled by trained political assassins in the senate and mainstream media. However, if any were ever in a fraternity, that alone should be enough to crucify them, at least it would seem so according to your standards.

But your deflection to “at least…” would seem to argue against the existence of your own ideal of a “True Conservative,” or that you really hold to any such standard. I see at least two glaring problems in the search for the ideal. One is that the past (aka “the good ol’ days”) is not nearly as good as we would like to imagine, e.g., the Roaring Twenties. Another is that there always seems to be a crisis of opposition that would thwart any ideal. We have been a Reality TV culture for more than a quarter century now, and it was not invented by Trump.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Where do you live?
That’s twice you have avoided my question, instead apparently trying to tie living proximity to viewpoint. Most communities are not monolithic these days, if they ever were. But it may not matter much anyway when it comes to an individual, especially on the Internet.

And where someone lives now does not say where they have lived before. If you would like to share your thoughts on the effects of living in various locales, that’s fine with me. Share away. It might work statistically, but I suspect you may get plenty of pushback when you try to pigeonhole individual people that way, and rightly so.
 

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Hmmm. Not sure most on the list really meet all of your criteria. I think the more modern ones don’t. May depend on definitions. It might be argued that some could be excused, as they were dealing with extreme situations.

Maybe it's too bad Coolidge didn't stick around for Black Monday and Tuesday, and the Great Depression. Would he have done better than Hoover, or was an FDR reign inevitable?

Calvin Coolidge was definitely one of our better presidents when it came to spending. He and the Republicans in Congress passed income tax revisions which reduced and even eliminated income taxes for many people. Federal spending was flat during his administration and one fourth of the Federal debt was actually retired.

As for Hoover, he tried to keep government intervention to the minimum after the crash, favoring private sector action to help turn things around. Because of the continuing economic difficulties, I do believe that an FDR was inevitable. The pendulum was bound to swing to the far opposite and it did, thus FDR and the welfare state. Even though most of the things FDR did placed us on the path to ever more government intervention in our lives, his WPA did put thousands of idle men to work and that was a shining light during a dark period of our nation.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865): Conservatives may not like his suspension of habeas corpus during …
Hah! That's an understatement if there ever was one.
Yeah, I suppose he swore to preserve the union but not its constitution.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Calvin Coolidge was definitely one of our better presidents when it came to spending. He and the Republicans in Congress passed income tax revisions which reduced and even eliminated income taxes for many people. Federal spending was flat during his administration and one fourth of the Federal debt was actually retired.

As for Hoover, he tried to keep government intervention to the minimum after the crash, favoring private sector action to help turn things around. Because of the continuing economic difficulties, I do believe that an FDR was inevitable. The pendulum was bound to swing to the far opposite and it did, thus FDR and the welfare state. Even though most of the things FDR did placed us on the path to ever more government intervention in our lives, his WPA did put thousands of idle men to work and that was a shining light during a dark period of our nation.
Yes, I just wonder how well history would have treated him had he won a third term. But it would depend on how well he handled the financial crisis. I don't know if he would have done what Hoover did (or not have done what Hoover didn't do), that is, I don't know enough to even speculate. For all I know, he was advising at that time. But as I said, there always seem to be crisis points that intrude to impede the ideal. So many things are in motion that it is difficult to address them all in a timely manner.
 

Salty

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Lincoln a conservative?? violated the COTUS several times.

Washington a conservative - He wanted a strong Federal Govt
 

Salty

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Well, they voted today - (Sat, 5 Oct) Debate officially closed - confirmation vote tomorrow
 
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