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Use of Time

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Where was all this hand wringing two years ago.


The Weapons America Is Leaving Behind in Syria

Whether now or ten or twenty from now…this was going to be the outcome. Just think of what we could have done for our own country with the money spent the last twenty years. I’m glad the bandaid has been ripped off. There will be some unpleasant scenes for awhile but it’s the country’s issues now.

Maybe we will finally let the lesson sink in this time to forgo the toppling of regimes and the hubris of thinking we can build a government to our liking.
 

Wingman68

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Where was all this hand wringing two years ago.


The Weapons America Is Leaving Behind in Syria

Whether now or ten or twenty from now…this was going to be the outcome. Just think of what we could have done for our own country with the money spent the last twenty years. I’m glad the bandaid has been ripped off. There will be some unpleasant scenes for awhile but it’s the country’s issues now.

Maybe we will finally let the lesson sink in this time to forgo the toppling of regimes and the hubris of thinking we can build a government to our liking.
Thank you. A lucent contribution. The fact is we are still in many countries across the globe though. Why did we have to create this black eye for the world to see, not to mention the people who put their trust in our flag to protect them. What about them?
 

Wingman68

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'No one cares about us': Crying Afghan girl shares fears of 'dying slowly in history' in viral video as her country is taken over by the Taliban
  • The emotional video was posted to Twitter by activist Masih Alinejad and quickly racked up over 1.6 million views
  • The clip features a crying girl whose identity remains unknown, voicing her anguish at the world's treatment of her country
  • 'We don't count because we were born in Afghanistan,' the tearful girl explains in the 45-second clip
  • The video was posted days before before the Taliban successfully established their control of Afghanistan on Sunday
  • The Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001, enforcing a brutal interpretation of Islamic law
  • Public executions were commonplace, while women accused of adultery were stoned
  • Under the previous Taliban rule, girls could not go to school while women could only appear in public in full body coverings and male escorts
  • Those who flouted the rules were flogged publicly or executed
  • Local reports say jihadist fighters have already forced village elders to compile forced 'marriage lists' for girls as young as 12
By SANDRA SALATHE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 01:53 EDT, 16 August 2021 | UPDATED: 08:22 EDT, 16 August 2021
 

Use of Time

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Thank you. A lucent contribution. The fact is we are still in many countries across the globe though. Why did we have to create this black eye for the world to see, not to mention the people who put their trust in our flag to protect them. What about them?

We have a history of this. What of the Afghans? What of the Kurds we left in Syria in 2019? There is no pretty way to do this and quite frankly we deserve a black eye. Let’s just take the lesson learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and get ourselves in order first.

We are in many countries around the world because it suits our best interest and they provide conduits of force projection around the globe. Afghanistan does neither.
 

Use of Time

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'No one cares about us': Crying Afghan girl shares fears of 'dying slowly in history' in viral video as her country is taken over by the Taliban
  • The emotional video was posted to Twitter by activist Masih Alinejad and quickly racked up over 1.6 million views
  • The clip features a crying girl whose identity remains unknown, voicing her anguish at the world's treatment of her country
  • 'We don't count because we were born in Afghanistan,' the tearful girl explains in the 45-second clip
  • The video was posted days before before the Taliban successfully established their control of Afghanistan on Sunday
  • The Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001, enforcing a brutal interpretation of Islamic law
  • Public executions were commonplace, while women accused of adultery were stoned
  • Under the previous Taliban rule, girls could not go to school while women could only appear in public in full body coverings and male escorts
  • Those who flouted the rules were flogged publicly or executed
  • Local reports say jihadist fighters have already forced village elders to compile forced 'marriage lists' for girls as young as 12
By SANDRA SALATHE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 01:53 EDT, 16 August 2021 | UPDATED: 08:22 EDT, 16 August 2021


There are similar atrocities being committed in Africa and other replaces. We simply cannot continue to be the global police force.
 

NewMusic

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It's sickening how evil the American government has become over the past 75+ years, with each year getting worse than the prior.

We who are awake and sober know exactly what is going on, but the lost are blind because they belong to Satan, and what an enormous number that is.

Anyhow, if you have the time to read God's word, read these 5 chapters. They all go together:

Revelation ch. 17 is a macro, overview, of the death of a land known by 3 titles (The Whore; Mystery Babylon; and The Great City) and it transpires in 4 stages (v.17:16). She is slaughtered by the 7-headed beast organization having 10 horns on its heads, which she sits atop of. This is very clearly America, and only if the Lord grants you eyes to see, will it begin to become understood. I'll explain it later if needed. Bear with me now.

Revelation ch. 18 is a detailed, mirco, account of the whore's death. Very detailed.

Revelation ch. 13 is the introduction in a fair amount of detail of the 7-headed beast w/ 10 horns. The thing to pay attention to is the latter part of this chapter where the false prophet makes everybody in the world take a mark in order to buy and sell. I'll explain later why this mark helps to identify the characters outlined (the 7-headed beast, the harlot, and others).

Then, after you have re-read those 3 chapters, take a rest, and get ready to read 2 chapters that are both on the long side in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 50 and 51 -- both these chapters are about the same whore that is described in the Revelation 17 and 18 chapters.

These 2 chapters in Jeremiah are about "Daughter of Babylon". Not the ancient Babylon that Nebuchadnezzar ruled over, nor any of the successors (i.e. Darius, Belshazzar (Nebuchadnezzar's nephew), Cyrus, Alexander the Greek, etc.).

The ruination prophesied in Jeremiah 50 and 51 could not pertain to ancient Babylon for several reasons, not the least of which this "Daughter of Babylon" as it is called in Jeremiah 50:42 and again in 51:33, is surrounded by many waters (Jer. 51:13).

Her sins have reached up to heaven (The whore is described as such in Rev. 18:5) and also in Jeremiah 51:9.

God tells His people to exodus her ("Come out") so that they do not get annihilated. See Revelation 18:4 and Jeremiah 50:8, 51:6, 51:45.

"Render to her and she herself has rendered to others!" Rev. 18:6
"... to do to her as she has done." Jeremiah 50:15

And some others.

Now, this is about America. I can explain it easily enough, but for now, even if you do not agree, or are unsure, just think about what I just said when you read those 5 chapters. Just think about it being America (especially when reading Rev. ch. 18. There's no mistaking it!).

The 2 chapters from Jeremiah will scare the hell out of you. It will cause your heart to stop when you realize it is the very country you live in, and start making you think long and hard on some things.

This is really the only reason I logged onto this board. To try and find followers of Christ who are dead-serious about their commitment to Christ and His Body and preparing TOGETHER on what is obviously coming and is going to require a network of brethren.

There are going to be very real physical things that are needed, and the Satanic system is locking down countries now, and doing everything in its power to steal and murder from the people, and especially the saints.

Read those chapters, and then you will see how it relates to your post -- how God makes fools out of leaders when a nation is given over to sin. See Job 12:13-25
 

Wingman68

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We have a history of this. What of the Afghans? What of the Kurds we left in Syria in 2019? There is no pretty way to do this and quite frankly we deserve a black eye. Let’s just take the lesson learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and get ourselves in order first.

We are in many countries around the world because it suits our best interest and they provide conduits of force projection around the globe. Afghanistan does neither.
I believe in trust & honor. If we commit, we can’t just pull the rug out, or rip the bandaid off. This is what happens. This is unacceptable.
 
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Wingman68

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Be warned. The Biden administration is like a wife beater who is humiliated in public. The only place they can reassert their authority is at home by abusing the wife and kids.

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Salty

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Withdrawing from there is one thing - BUT - Biden had absolutely NO business announcing it months in advance.
Sure, it made Americans happy - but Afgans are being killed - just read - where the Taliban are executing surrendering troops.

Somehow, Americans think we are the only ones who count. The closest that Americans have come to an invasion is when the Carpet baggers invaded the South and that was after Shermans March to the Sea.

Would we have won the war of Independence if France and others had not helped us?
 

xlsdraw

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It's sickening how evil the American government has become over the past 75+ years, with each year getting worse than the prior.

We who are awake and sober know exactly what is going on, but the lost are blind because they belong to Satan, and what an enormous number that is.

Anyhow, if you have the time to read God's word, read these 5 chapters. They all go together:

Revelation ch. 17 is a macro, overview, of the death of a land known by 3 titles (The Whore; Mystery Babylon; and The Great City) and it transpires in 4 stages (v.17:16). She is slaughtered by the 7-headed beast organization having 10 horns on its heads, which she sits atop of. This is very clearly America, and only if the Lord grants you eyes to see, will it begin to become understood. I'll explain it later if needed. Bear with me now.

Revelation ch. 18 is a detailed, mirco, account of the whore's death. Very detailed.

Revelation ch. 13 is the introduction in a fair amount of detail of the 7-headed beast w/ 10 horns. The thing to pay attention to is the latter part of this chapter where the false prophet makes everybody in the world take a mark in order to buy and sell. I'll explain later why this mark helps to identify the characters outlined (the 7-headed beast, the harlot, and others).

Then, after you have re-read those 3 chapters, take a rest, and get ready to read 2 chapters that are both on the long side in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 50 and 51 -- both these chapters are about the same whore that is described in the Revelation 17 and 18 chapters.

These 2 chapters in Jeremiah are about "Daughter of Babylon". Not the ancient Babylon that Nebuchadnezzar ruled over, nor any of the successors (i.e. Darius, Belshazzar (Nebuchadnezzar's nephew), Cyrus, Alexander the Greek, etc.).

The ruination prophesied in Jeremiah 50 and 51 could not pertain to ancient Babylon for several reasons, not the least of which this "Daughter of Babylon" as it is called in Jeremiah 50:42 and again in 51:33, is surrounded by many waters (Jer. 51:13).

Her sins have reached up to heaven (The whore is described as such in Rev. 18:5) and also in Jeremiah 51:9.

God tells His people to exodus her ("Come out") so that they do not get annihilated. See Revelation 18:4 and Jeremiah 50:8, 51:6, 51:45.

"Render to her and she herself has rendered to others!" Rev. 18:6
"... to do to her as she has done." Jeremiah 50:15

And some others.

Now, this is about America. I can explain it easily enough, but for now, even if you do not agree, or are unsure, just think about what I just said when you read those 5 chapters. Just think about it being America (especially when reading Rev. ch. 18. There's no mistaking it!).

The 2 chapters from Jeremiah will scare the hell out of you. It will cause your heart to stop when you realize it is the very country you live in, and start making you think long and hard on some things.

This is really the only reason I logged onto this board. To try and find followers of Christ who are dead-serious about their commitment to Christ and His Body and preparing TOGETHER on what is obviously coming and is going to require a network of brethren.

There are going to be very real physical things that are needed, and the Satanic system is locking down countries now, and doing everything in its power to steal and murder from the people, and especially the saints.

Read those chapters, and then you will see how it relates to your post -- how God makes fools out of leaders when a nation is given over to sin. See Job 12:13-25

Do you believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church?
 

Conan

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That we just handed over the Afghan people to the tali bond is utterly disgraceful. Biden doesn’t care about Americans how is he going to care about anyone else? Biden serves an Evil group of billionaires and their godless interests .
 

Use of Time

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I believe in trust & honor. If we commit, we can’t just pull the rug out, or rip the bandaid off. This is what happens. This is unacceptable.

So did the Kurds two years ago. Let’s face it, we have no reputation worth trusting in rhe Middle East right now. Those obsessed with using the scenes for political point scoring are missing the point. Every President since Bush owns a piece of the blame for our Middle Eastern behavior.
 

NewMusic

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Do you believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church?

Simple answer. Absolutely not.

The Lord Jesus taught me Himself, and showed me via the scriptures after I prayed for 3 months to know the truth about this thing called a rapture.

And after 3 months of praying (back in those days when I was a pretty new believer I had a grocery list of things I prayed about routinely), He spoke to me, clearly, and I heard it in my ear, but it was also in my mind's ear.

He said, "Go to your room, get your bible, and read Matthew 13." And so I did. And as I was reading the chapter, nothing, nothing, nothing, and I was thinking to myself, "Did I just imagine Him talking to me???", and then BAM!, there it was. Startling.

And it was the exact opposite of what the pre-tribbers were teaching. Clear as day in His word, He showed me.

Then He said, "Now turn to Matthew 24" and I knew where He was leading me in that chapter, and the passage confirmed and backed up what He had just shown me in Matthew 13.

And then over the next many years, He continued to show me more and more passages that gave clear detail on the TIMING of this event. Clear as day.

And the event happens at the very end. The saints must endure to the end, through the great tribulation.

I can upload the 7 passages in the New Testament that speak on this with no ambiguity, but for now let me tell you something important related to the "doctrine" pre-tribbers grab hold of and from that (using domino theory) arrive at something false.

They believe that because God has not destined us to wrath, therefore we cannot possibly be here on earth during the latter half of the 7-year tribulation.

EXCEPT that that very short time on earth (the 7 bowls of wrath written in Revelation chapter 16) is not the wrath that the apostles are speaking about when it is written. The apostle is referring to the wrath of the Great White Throne judgment where the wrath is TRULY rendered.

So if you're interested, I can show you the 7 new testament passages that show clearly the timing of events, i.e. This first, Then this.
 

NewMusic

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Every President since Bush owns a piece of the blame for our Middle Eastern behavior.

There have only been 2 or maybe 3 presidents in the last 60 years, that were decent and against the New World Order, and 2 of them got shot by bullets, and the one who just handed the keys of our country over to our known evil enemy, Biden, in bed with the Chinese, makes me wonder if it is actually 2, and not 3. Please don't ask me to speak on his soul in which only God knows the truth.

Our country has been ruled by the cabal for decades, and both parties are in on it, as was seen clearly on January 6 when the republicans and Mike Pence, voted against their own leader, Trump.
 
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Scott Downey

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Three stowaways 'fall to their deaths from plane' and five are killed at Kabul airport | Daily Mail Online

Biden says nothing, but blames Trump. People run alongside planes & try to hold on in a futile attempt to evade the torturing Taliban. In Kabul we tried to destroy ‘sensitive’ paperwork, but we left artillery, & every manner of military might for them. Make sense?
Scenes of chaos at Kabul airport after Taliban seize control of Afghanistan

40 seconds into this video, you cans see people holding on the outside of the huge US airforce plane as it moves to take off.
 

Scott Downey

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Shock Video: Desperate Afghans Cling to US Military Jet, Plunge to Their Deaths as It Takes Off

Fast forward one month shy of 20 years from that fateful day, and the world again beholds images of desperate people falling to their death rather than face the death they know is coming at the hands of terrorists.

In contrast to scenes of happy rifle-toting Taliban soldiers strolling through Kabul as they basked in the aftermath of victory, the city’s airport was a mass of seething panic as Afghan citizens who know all too well that to remain is to die tried to board planes helping Western diplomats and others deemed more essential flee Kabul while they still could.
 

Wingman68

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They’ve got this……..like it never even happened. Biden will be forced out of hiding by his own mfm to speak today. Will he say something like this?

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Or this?

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Yeah, can’t wait for these pearls of wisdom……..
 
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