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Would we not want to read and understand as they knew it back then?

 

I agree with you that a man called by the lord should avail himself of all learning opportunities, as knowing the Hebrew and Greek can only help them better understand and apply the English!

 

Paul used all of his formal schooling, as he was the one chosen to be revealed the greatest theology on earth, the book of Romans!

 

Thought that you were going to say that when they saw him preaching without aid of his notes"That is preaching under the Holy Ghost"

 

In the incarnation, Jesus “chose” to not know a lot

 

I have to say I did not see any of your comments as being condescending. So it must have been me, but I don't know what I said in a condescending way.

 

Thank you. He seems to imply me. I certainly hope not

 

The Holy Spirit inspired Scripture. The Holy Spirit was not limited by the education level of anyone.

 

Paul was not a murderer in any legal sense, since he was operating under authority of law. Neither is there evidence that he was physically involved in any executions (such as throwing stones at Stephen). However, he clearly approved of executions of Christians (e.g. Acts 8:1; 22:20) and specifically mentions that he voiced or voted in favor of putting them to death (Acts 26:10).

 

Did you know!!

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Harvard University supposedly used the book of Romans to teach Logic up until about 1970?

I really should have looked this ip to make sure, but I am pretty sure to be right here

 

Yes, the style of writing in the NT is quite varied. Luke and Paul seem to be the most well educated while John , and Peter wrote in a much simpler style (words and phrases)

This does not mean that The writings of Paul and Luke were better or more inspired. It does demonstrate how God uses all of us for His glory and to accomplish His goals for His Kingdom

 

AT. I certainly did not mean to offend you with this statement. It was meant to be a general statement certainly not aimed at anyone

If I did offend you, would you please forgive me? I do sometimes come off as crass and that is never the intention

I do want to make it very clear tgat eventhough I attended seminary, I am in no way a finished product. In fact, about a month ago, I publicly made the comment about John being much more proficient in Greek than I. There are numerous reasons for this and none of them really matter in the grand scheme of things. Education is just that, none of us ever “arrive” and all are prone to error.

May God continually remind me to have a humble heart and compassion to all men.

Thank You

Bill

Rom 5:1

 

There is no forgiveness needed (for either you or John of Japan).
Since you both have offered apologies, I freely grant any and all forgiveness that you might be due.
You explained your intentions, as requested, so I know that there was no malice in your brief post.

What upsets me about this entire topic (and several others that take a similar track) is the assumption that those who disagree with the opinions taught at seminary do so out of ignorance. It is not an established fact that Peter, as an example, was LITERATE in Greek and Hebrew and thus READ the Hebrew and Greek OT scrolls to select which translation he was inspired to quote when writing in Greek (and in fact, it has not even been attempted to show that Peter actually personally WROTE anything and did not dictate it to a scribe.)

Yet the "truth" taught to y'all at seminary is presented as TRUTH (absolute Truth) and any questioning of that truth becomes an "example" to illustrate why Preachers need a seminary education. It was that "assumed superiority" that comes through loud and clear from those seminary educated to those who they assume are not. If I had M.Div. before my name, my assumptions would have been treated differently and attacked as "error" rather than dismissed as "ignorance". Yet in debate terms, you are still committing an invisible "Appeal to Authority" fallacy and in Legal terms you are "stating facts not in evidence".

To bring us full circle back to the question in the OP and his poll: This innate attitude created by adding letters to your name is what causes some people to object to seminary trained Pastors. People want a Caring Shepherd, not a Well Educated Overlord. It only takes one bad experience to leave a lasting impression on a Church member and their family.

For myself, most of what I believe I learned by reading scripture "in spite of what I was being taught to the contrary at the Church of God of Anderson Indiana". (God has a sense of humor) Most of the theological vocabulary that I learned for what I believe came from "Hank", who taught the Adult Bible Study at an Evangelical Free Church [Hank had a M.Div from Moody, along with an MBA and a PhD in Mathematics]. I learned a lot about the "Trinity" and "Already and not yet" and "Typologies" from Brian, a young Southern Baptist Pastor with a brand new PhD. in Theology with a Dissertation on something to do with the Trinity. So I am not "anti-education" ... I just know what its strengths and weaknesses are and why other people are put off by some Seminary Graduates. (I have multiple Degrees myself - none from any bible college - all useful to me, but ultimately unimportant to who I am.)

Arthur T. Pollard, RA LEED
Architect, Engineer, Land Planner

 

Would you say that he knew as much as a Jewish man of his era, but that the Holy Spirit gave to Him what He needed when he needed it knowledge wise?
Or was it that he always knew all things, since still fully God, but placed himself under limitations of the Human flesh?

 

You are very blessed to have had such teachers. I consider you as a trained lauman who has a lot to offer anyone. It sounds like you have spent much time in great study

As to Peter, I see your pount regarding an amanuensis.

People want a Caring Shepherd, not a Well Educated Overlord. It only takes one bad experience to leave a lasting impression on a Church member and their family.

This is one of the best comments ever on BB

 

That is why God chose Paul to be the One to give forth to us Romans and all of the other NT Books that he penned down to us under inspiration of the Holy Spirit!