"Sidney Powell is not a credible source, nor a good attorney..."

[Baptist Believer]

On November 16, 2020, I posted (in the context of a thread on the allegedly "stolen" election):
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Sidney Powell is not a credible source, nor a good attorney. She’s made a mess of Flynn’s plea, and the only way Flynn will avoid jail is if Trump pardons him.

If the Supreme Court accepts the case, she will get chewed up by the Justices during oral arguments.

Don’t bother launching personal attacks against me. Let’s just watch this happen.​

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I received a lot of criticism in response anyway, including this:
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"You sure have been portraying yourself as a prophet here lately. Don't let your shoulder get too sore patting yourself on the back."​

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In response, I explained:
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I’m simply trying to give people into the Trump echo chamber a little dose of reality so the truth won’t be so hard on them. Trump supporters have been deceived by lies upon lies. They are the victims in this situation.​

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When Sidney Powell was released from the President's team, I reported on it and was then characterized in this way:
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Fake news puppets blindly accept whatever narrative they are feed no matter how twisted as long as it serves their purposes.​

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When I pointed out that Sidney Powell's arguments did not make any sense, nor provided any evidence, a well-known poster observed that Dominion's business would be hurt by Sidney Powell's public allegations:
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...My guess is that Dominion will go out of business because of an persistent error rate..."
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Dominion felt the same way, so they sued. Strangely enough, I didn't see any breathless reporting around here that Dominion has sued Powell and Giuliani for their allegations, although one of the leading conspiracists here referenced it in an unrelated thread.

I was pleased that the "stolen election" conspiracists will get to see Sidney Powell make her case in court -- with any admissible evidence brought forward to defend their allegations. This will be an opportunity to set the record straight, although conspiracists are never satisfied with reality.

But today, Sidney Powell introduced a motion to dismiss Dominion Voting Systems' defamation lawsuit against her instead of releasing the "Kraken" of evidence and having it carefully examined by the court and a jury. (Remember, the complaint has been that no court would consider the evidence? Now a court will need to consider the evidence and she wants no part of it.)

What's her basic argument?

Powell argues in her motion that "no reasonable person" would conclude that her accusations of Dominion's election-rigging scheme "were truly statements of fact."​

Many of you should reconsider whether or not you have been "reasonable" about anything related to the politics of the last five years. You are living in an echo chamber where your perceptions of reality have nothing to do with facts or reality.

 

[Conan]

Not a peep out of the media about any voting fraud whatsoever during the month of November. Not even one of the many allegations. Nothing but silence by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, so on and so forth. It is not until well after Biden was installed as President was even allowed, in a small way to talk about. What about all of the YouTube videos that we saw that were taken down off of YouTube? Why were they not discussed by CNN, MSNBC, so on and so forth? Because we have a controlled news media that is why. Billionaires who did not like Trump making our lives better stole the election, as well as the media blackout of voter fraud. Not until it was safe to talk about, in a small non truthful way.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Not a peep out of the media about any voting fraud whatsoever during the month of November. Not even one of the many allegations. Nothing but silence by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, so on and so forth.

I haven’t watched ABC News since 2001, but I can tell you that coverage of the allegation of election fraud dominated the political reporting of CNN and MSNBC from before Election Day (since former President Trump made claims well in advance) all the way through January 6th, when the attack on Congress began – well over two months of consistent reporting and analysis every day! And that’s just television news – the Washington Post and New York Times, as well as hundreds of other newspapers, also covered and investigated the allegations.

Your claim is completely false.

It is not until well after Biden was installed as President was even allowed, in a small way to talk about.

Biden was elected, not “installed.” And by your use of the word, “allowed,” I’m sure you are about to drop a conspiracy theory.

What about all of the YouTube videos that we saw that were taken down off of YouTube?

I can’t comment in any detail about a reference to “all of the YouTube videos,” but I do know that there were a lot of highly manipulated videos floating around that alleged to show fraud.

Why were they not discussed by CNN, MSNBC, so on and so forth?

They were.

Because we have a controlled news media that is why.

Right… It is so controlled that they actually covered the allegations thoroughly.

Billionaires who did not like Trump making our lives better stole the election, as well as the media blackout of voter fraud. Not until it was safe to talk about, in a small non truthful way.

Your allegations are simply false. And this has nothing to do with Sidney Powell.

 

[canadyjd]

It remains to be seen whether she is shown to be a good attorney or credible source.

It remains to be seen whether a judge will allow her to present her evidence or make progress in pre-trial depositions.

I guess we will see, eventually.

peace to you

 

[Revmitchell]

Not a peep out of the media about any voting fraud whatsoever during the month of November. Not even one of the many allegations. Nothing but silence by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, so on and so forth. It is not until well after Biden was installed as President was even allowed, in a small way to talk about. What about all of the YouTube videos that we saw that were taken down off of YouTube? Why were they not discussed by CNN, MSNBC, so on and so forth? Because we have a controlled news media that is why. Billionaires who did not like Trump making our lives better stole the election, as well as the media blackout of voter fraud. Not until it was safe to talk about, in a small non truthful way.

Yep

 

[Yeshua1]

I haven’t watched ABC News since 2001, but I can tell you that coverage of the allegation of election fraud dominated the political reporting of CNN and MSNBC from before Election Day (since former President Trump made claims well in advance) all the way through January 6th, when the attack on Congress began – well over two months of consistent reporting and analysis every day! And that’s just television news – the Washington Post and New York Times, as well as hundreds of other newspapers, also covered and investigated the allegations.

Your claim is completely false.


Biden was elected, not “installed.” And by your use of the word, “allowed,” I’m sure you are about to drop a conspiracy theory.


I can’t comment in any detail about a reference to “all of the YouTube videos,” but I do know that there were a lot of highly manipulated videos floating around that alleged to show fraud.


They were.


Right… It is so controlled that they actually covered the allegations thoroughly.



Your allegations are simply false. And this has nothing to do with Sidney Powell.

Yes they all covered it, with the same answer of nothing to be seen here. move on!

 

[Yeshua1]

Not a peep out of the media about any voting fraud whatsoever during the month of November. Not even one of the many allegations. Nothing but silence by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, so on and so forth. It is not until well after Biden was installed as President was even allowed, in a small way to talk about. What about all of the YouTube videos that we saw that were taken down off of YouTube? Why were they not discussed by CNN, MSNBC, so on and so forth? Because we have a controlled news media that is why. Billionaires who did not like Trump making our lives better stole the election, as well as the media blackout of voter fraud. Not until it was safe to talk about, in a small non truthful way.

If it was the other side, if Biden was ahead up until the end votes came in and trump was reelected, media and Congress would still have kept trump from taking his oath as president!

 

[Gold Dragon]

Just like Fox News’ lawyers saying about Tucker Carlson

McDougal v. Fox News Network, LLC, No. 1:2019cv11161 - Document 39 (S.D.N.Y. 2020)

Fox persuasively argues ... that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer “arrives with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statements he makes."

Unfortunately there are lots of unreasonable viewers that give these people attention because they tickle their ears with things the viewer wants to be true.

 

[Wingman68]

Funny that. As soon as the media thinks they have dispatched Trump, who do they begin to attack? That will tell me all I need to know about who is telling truths that they don’t want anyone to hear. I don’t watch any Fox, since the election, but I know that Tucker is bringing it, with evidence. The media are no more credible than watching Baghdad Bob telling us they had the Americans on the run.......while US tanks rolled by behind him, one by one, in the shot.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Funny that. As soon as the media thinks they have dispatched Trump, who do they begin to attack? That will tell me all I need to know about who is telling truths that they don’t want anyone to hear. I don’t watch any Fox, since the election, but I know that Tucker is bringing it, with evidence. The media are no more credible than watching Baghdad Bob telling us they had the Americans on the run.......while US tanks rolled by behind him, one by one, in the shot.

You may not have been aware but this court case occurred in September when Trump was president and Fox News lawyers were defending Carlson in this case against Fox News. A key part of their defense to have the case dismissed was that any reasonable person would be skeptical of Tucker’s statements.

This is pretty much the same defense used by Powell for her defamation lawsuit. These are arguments made by their own lawyers representing them in a court of law. And yet people still believe them. Their lawyers think those people are unreasonable.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Yes they all covered it, with the same answer of nothing to be seen here. move on!

They covered it, analyzed the allegations, investigated the claims, and reported their findings. It seems your issue is that you didn’t like the results of the reporting.

 

[Baptist Believer]

If it was the other side, if Biden was ahead up until the end votes came in and trump was reelected, media and Congress would still have kept trump from taking his oath as president!

I doubt it. The votes “that came in at the end” were votes cast before Election Day. In most states, the votes cast on Election Day were counted first, then the early votes. Given that the President told his voters to vote on Election Day and not to be concerned about COVID-19, President Trump’s margin of counted votes was always known to be its highest on Election Night, with Biden making up ground as the vote counting going through the night. The large “dumps” of votes were simply metropolitan voting districts periodically reporting their counts.

This was expected, and just about everyone serving in an official capacity from local election officials to Bill Barr said the election was valid, reliable, and accurate. In terms of polling, Trump and Republican leaders did better than expected. Moreover, if the Democrats were going to commit fraud, they certainly would have forged the House and Senate votes as well, but that obviously was not done.

There’s no evidence for widespread fraud, no logic reason to suspect the results, and the “star witnesses” for fraud have either recanted or have huge credibility issues. And Sydney Powell now claims that “no reasonable person” would take her claims of Dominion votes being switched as a serious claim.

So no, you assertion is only based on your unsupported belief that Congress would have unethically kept Trump from taking office. Instead, Trump’s supporters criminally attacked Congress and went after Vice President Mike Pence to prevent Joe Biden from becoming President.

 

[Conan]

They covered it, analyzed the allegations, investigated the claims, and reported their findings. It seems your issue is that you didn’t like the results of the reporting.

They did not. They were silent. You are rewritting history.

 

[Gold Dragon]

The media that was not trying to fool their audiences by giving screen time to people “with reputations for making statements that reasonable people should be skeptical of”, were reporting about the alleged election fraud the way Powell’s lawyers suggested they should. As reasonable people that did not conclude that her statements were truly statements of fact.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I don't understand why people put up with the insults that Fox News, Tucker Carlson and Sidney Powell say about the people who believe them to be telling the truth. They have admitted in court that they should not be believed and they have mocked those who believe them as lacking in reason.

They care more about their wallets and getting sued than their reputations as being people who tell the truth based on any factual evidence. It is because they know they can openly admit that they are liars and there will still be people who listen/watch/believe them and allow them to get rich in the process.

 

[Yeshua1]

They did not. They were silent. You are rewritting history.

The fake Media did their very best to make sure that whatever was discovered was kept buried!

 

[777]

LOL, as if the MSM isn't the very definition of an echo chamber. Not even stating SP correctly, this is what she said:

"... Such characterizations of the allegedly defamatory statements further support Defendants’ position that reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process...

notice she is not saying that reasonable people shouldn't believe her but what would the media know about being "reasonable"? Impeaching Trump over a phone call and again over a speech and they think to this day that Russia won the election for Trump. so they're not in any shape to lecture others.

SP did about as good a job as she could with Mike Flynn with that corrupt judge on the case. All four battleground states stopped counting in the middle of the night, which had never happened before, sent observers home, taped up the windows and started counting the votes again with these machines, all in Democratic urban areas controlled by their machine. "Reasonable people" should assume election fraud, their fighting any audit sure seals the deal.

 

[Roy]

Sidney Powell was carrying a heavy load after the election, and it amazes me that she didn't have a nervous break down during that time. She and other private attorneys were doing what the FBI should have been doing and that was investigating claims of election fraud. She could be blamed for taking on more responsibility than one attorney could reasonably handle.

It was clear to everyone what we would get with Biden:
1. Out of control illegal immigration
2. Out of control gas prices.
3. Weakened military.
4. More support for the LGBTQ agenda.
5. Reviving Obama Care.
6. Reckless government spending.
7. Return to the Paris Accords.
8. Accolades for AntiFa and condemnation for police.

All of those things are products of legislators and courts who care nothing for the citizenry of this country and are eager for this country's demise. The majority of legal voters are not naive enough to vote for something like that and they didn't. It took a major act of vote fraud to put an openly destructive administration into office, like the Biden administration.

 

[Gold Dragon]

"Reasonable people" should assume election fraud, their fighting any audit sure seals the deal.

Assuming a claim of election fraud is true is the exact opposite of what her lawyers said a reasonable person should do with her statements. They said they should not accept such statements as fact.

In terms of allowing those claims not based on fact to be tested in court, that is exactly where she finds her claims at this moment, in court. And instead of providing evidence as to why those claims have merit, her lawyers move to dismiss stating no reasonable person should take them as fact.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

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Many of you should reconsider whether or not you have been "reasonable" about anything related to the politics of the last five years. You are living in an echo chamber where your perceptions of reality have nothing to do with facts or reality.

And yet again with your misplaced arrogant and condescending statements. Perhaps you should try applying them to yourself first and keep them to yourself until successful.

The Progressive Left Dems and their MSM are far more likely to tell the truth accidentally than otherwise, such as when Mika complained that Trump is dangerous to them because he could subvert their narrative and open people’s minds to the truth.

It was refreshing to hear her openly admit that the Progressive Left MSM have a narrative with which they attempt to control people’s minds, and that that is why they hate Trump so much and have been hellbent on helping the Dems undermine him.