"Sidney Powell is not a credible source, nor a good attorney..."

[Gold Dragon]

LOL. That is just drinking the Kool-Aid. No reasonable, unbiased person would draw such a conclusion or allow news organizations to hide behind such claims as not knowing. If they didn't know, then they should have said so rather than stating it as fact.

The truth is that they didn't merely "make an error." They lied and deceived saying, "The laptop story was discredited by U.S. intelligence and independent investigations by news organizations," when nothing could have been further from the truth. They worked in concert to suppress the truth.

There were no such investigations, no such evidence, no such discredit. They made it up out of whole cloth to influence the suppression of bona fide stories. When news organizations work in concert to report such obviously false information, that is far worse than mere hyperbolic statements. The Dem Progressive Left MSM has zero credibility. They are a mere propaganda arm.

You have quite the active imagination. You mean the media worked in concert with the FBI that was reporting to President Trump at the time to cover this up? Look I get that there are some folks in the FBI that are not big fans of Trump but Wray was appointed by Trump. Obviously Trump was pushing for this to be investigated. Even if there were some Biden friendly FBI officers, I can't see them disobeying a direct order to investigate and try to bury it. That doesn't make much sense.

It does make sense that at the time of the article, NPR probably had a source that told them that the FBI investigation had discredited the evidence and later on received new information stating that this was not the case and issued a correction.


One think to keep in mind is that the npr "article" in question was not a news story but a book review. And the line that was corrected was not reporting news but a throw in comment to give context to the book. They still should have done their due diligence and avoided the error.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

You have quite the active imagination. You mean the media worked in concert with the FBI that was reporting to President Trump at the time to cover this up? Look I get that there are some folks in the FBI that are not big fans of Trump but Wray was appointed by Trump. Obviously Trump was pushing for this to be investigated. Even if there were some Biden friendly FBI officers, I can't see them disobeying a direct order to investigate and try to bury it. That doesn't make much sense.

It does make sense that at the time of the article, NPR probably had a source that told them that the FBI investigation had discredited the evidence and later on received new information stating that this was not the case and issued a correction.

Your posts are great at reframing a situation so that it no longer reflects reality. They did not try to report or investigate but did the very opposite--discredit, suppress, cover up.

But OK, let's assume for a moment that they didn't know. That would mean that they were parroting lies and deceit. An organization that traffics in parroting lies and deceit should not be considered a bona fide news outlet. The Dem Progressive Left MSM are bent on propaganda.

Also, their statement was extremely broad, as though they were in contact with many other "news" outlets. Their sources are themselves and other bad actors all bent on propaganda. Instead of verifying information, trying to establish facts, they immediately went on the defensive for the Dems. Such is the Dem Progressive Left MSM and why they have zero credibility.

And FYI, an appointment does not indicate agreement or support. Wray was in no way a Trump supporter. Wray is FBI. Even Trey Gowdy admitted that these people cover for each other. Also, you seem terribly ignorant or in utter denial of what the FBI did with both the Hillary "investigation" and the Trump investigations.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Your posts are great at reframing a situation so that it no longer reflects reality. They did not try to report or investigate but did the very opposite--discredit, suppress, cover up.

But OK, let's assume for a moment that they didn't know. That would mean that they were parroting lies and deceit. An organization that traffics in parroting lies and deceit should not be considered a bona fide news outlet. The Dem Progressive Left MSM are bent on propaganda.

Also, their statement was extremely broad, as though they were in contact with many other "news" outlets. Their sources are themselves and other bad actors all bent on propaganda. Instead of verifying information, trying to establish facts, they immediately went on the defensive for the Dems. Such is the Dem Progressive Left MSM and why they have zero credibility.

Remember, it was a book review.

And FYI, an appointment does not indicate agreement or support. Wray was in no way a Trump supporter. Wray is FBI. Even Trey Gowdy admitted that these people cover for each other. Also, you seem terribly ignorant or in utter denial of what the FBI did with both the Hillary "investigation" and the Trump investigations.

Both of those investigations were started under Obama and Comey. Once initiated they have to follow through with them. But to not even initiate the laptop investigation while Trump is president is a bit unrealistic and probably would get people fired.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Remember, it was a book review.

Both of those investigations were started under Obama and Comey. Once initiated they have to follow through with them. But to not even initiate the laptop investigation while Trump is president is a bit unrealistic and probably would get people fired.

OK, let that particular item be a book review. The context is still the same, and the events that transpired, and the ones that didn't, are as I described. The biased language describing the matter, the actual suppression of a bona fide article, and the non-reporting to avoid attention on Biden's illicit dealings are still intact.

Again, how the investigations were conducted is the point. Whether an "investigation" took place at all is not even in question. And if it matters which president the investigations are initiated under or conducted under, then that only compounds the problem.

The obvious takeaway is that we have dirty cops running the FBI, and a lying, deceiving, propagandizing Dem MSM masquerading as trustworthy journalists.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Again, how the investigations were conducted is the point. Whether an "investigation" took place at all is not even in question. And if it matters which president the investigations are initiated under or conducted under, then that only compounds the problem.

The obvious takeaway is that we have dirty cops running the FBI, and a lying, deceiving, propagandizing Dem MSM masquerading as trustworthy journalists.

So is Fox News in on the cover-up too, trying to make the FBI and the US Attorney's office look like they are investigating Hunter Biden when they really aren't?

Laptop connected to Hunter Biden linked to FBI money laundering probe

The FBI’s subpoena of a laptop and hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden came in connection with a money laundering investigation in late 2019, according to documents obtained by Fox News and verified by multiple federal law enforcement officials who reviewed them.

It is unclear, at this point, whether the investigation is ongoing or if it was directly related to Hunter Biden.

Multiple federal law enforcement officials, as well as two separate government officials, confirmed the authenticity of these documents, which were signed by FBI Special Agent Joshua Wilson. Wilson did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

Hunter Biden 'tax affairs' under federal investigation; links to China funds emerge, sources say

The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Delaware is investigating Hunter Biden’s “tax affairs,” President-elect Joe Biden’s son confirmed Wednesday, saying he is taking the matter “very seriously” and is “confident” he handled his affairs “legally and appropriately.”
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The investigation, according to a source familiar with the matter, began in 2018.
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Two sources familiar with the investigation tell Fox News that the investigation includes looking at the laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden.
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Another document, obtained by Fox News, was a subpoena sent to Isaac to testify before U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware on Dec. 9, 2019. One page of the subpoena showed what appeared to be serial numbers for a laptop and hard drive taken into possession.

The subpoena stated that it was requested by Lesley F. Wolf, who, at the time, served as assistant U.S. attorney for the district of Delaware.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

So is Fox News in on the cover-up too, trying to make the FBI and the US Attorney's office look like they are investigating Hunter Biden when they really aren't?

Laptop connected to Hunter Biden linked to FBI money laundering probe

Hunter Biden 'tax affairs' under federal investigation; links to China funds emerge, sources say

I'll let you flesh out your point a bit more, if a response is really desired.

But suffice it to say once again for the record that I do not consider any news outlet to be trustworthy just because. There are all manner of motivations for whatever reporting and commentary, not the least of which is audience appeal. No one gets a pass. FOX didn't even exist, nor did CNN for that matter, when I came to that conclusion. But they are no exception.

This major difference between us was established long ago. This doesn't mean confirmation bias isn't in effect, just that I'm always vaguely aware of it even if not specifically.

I may not always be sufficiently skeptical, but the Dem Progressive Left MSM have always been bad and have only gotten worse. They are not to be trusted at all. Their agenda is anti-America.

The possible exception would be certain weather forecasts. But even some weather programming goes overboard hyping the presentation.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I'll let you flesh out your point a bit more, if a response is really desired.

But suffice it to say once again for the record that I do not consider any news outlet to be trustworthy just because. There are all manner of motivations for whatever reporting and commentary, not the least of which is audience appeal. No one gets a pass. FOX didn't even exist, nor did CNN for that matter, when I came to that conclusion. But they are no exception.

This major difference between us was established long ago. This doesn't mean confirmation bias isn't in effect, just that I'm always vaguely aware of it even if not specifically.

I may not always be sufficiently skeptical, but the Dem Progressive Left MSM have always been bad and have only gotten worse. They are not to be trusted at all. Their agenda is anti-America.

The possible exception would be certain weather forecasts. But even some weather programming goes overboard hyping the presentation.

I’m not sure what you are saying here about the Biden investigations but sure, you don’t trust the media. Yet you get your news somehow and have developed strong opinions about things you obviously don’t have first hand knowledge of. So you are trusting somebody for some reason. Are those reasons good ones?

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

… Yet you get your news somehow and have developed strong opinions about things you obviously don’t have first hand knowledge of. So you are trusting somebody for some reason. Are those reasons good ones?

Given my description, the process would be much better characterized as disbelieving everyone to varying degrees based on decades of past experience.

But Sky News Australia is my go-to. Gotta trust those Aussies implicitly, right? Seriously, there are sources to consider that may not be as accessible to all, and time is a factor overall.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I’m not sure what you are saying here about the Biden investigations...

Very astute, to a point. I didn't say anything about them in that post. Rather I was saying that about your own post. If you want to clarify with specifics, maybe I can address them. It's not even clear whether you understood my previous points, much less what issue you have with them.

Quite frankly, your posts seem to drift from the context, which is that the Dem Progressive Left MSM naturally seeks to protect their party and advance their agenda, Biden was the selected person for them to prop up and cover for election, and the laptop story was an obvious impediment that needed to be squelched.

If you are suggesting that didn't happen, then you have a hard row to hoe in demonstrating that. If you are saying that you won't believe any evidence except their own specific admission in court documents, then the discussion is laughably useless.

 

[percho]

Dinesh D'Souza Interviews Sidney Powell | Dinesh D'Souza Podcast (bitchute.com)

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I’m not sure what you are saying here about the Biden investigations but sure, you don’t trust the media. Yet you get your news somehow and have developed strong opinions about things you obviously don’t have first hand knowledge of. So you are trusting somebody for some reason. Are those reasons good ones?

Instead of trying to argue the point further, I'm linking to a thread highlighting a speech by an experienced journalist. She exposes much of what the Dem Progressive Left MSM is about these days.

The OP mentions where to find her take on the Hunter Biden laptop story. I'll allow that her version is bound to be more accurate than my own.

Slanted Journalism and the 2020 Election | Sharyl Attkisson

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I’m not sure what you are saying here about the Biden investigations but sure, you don’t trust the media. Yet you get your news somehow and have developed strong opinions about things you obviously don’t have first hand knowledge of. So you are trusting somebody for some reason. Are those reasons good ones?

Here is another thread linking to Atkisson (both video and transcript). She lays out rather well what is really going on in the media.

How Real Is Fake News? | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada

 

[percho]

Sidney Powell

Speaks to this thread in the vid in post 90.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Dinesh D'Souza Interviews Sidney Powell | Dinesh D'Souza Podcast (bitchute.com)

Couldn't get the connection to work well. Here's an alternative and its stated source.

According to the Dinesh D’Souza interview (April 3, 2021 Constitutional Nobody Politics):

"Sidney Powell Is Not Backing Down"

"Sidney Powell Gives Her Side Of The Story"

"Why Wasn’t Sidney Powell’s Evidence Examined? This Will INFURIATE You"

"Sidney Powell Discusses What’s ACTUALLY Happening in America"​

(VIDEOS) Sidney Powell Is Not Backing Down, Gives Her Side Of The Story with Dinesh D’Souza

(VIDEOS) Sidney Powell Is Not Backing Down, Gives Her Side Of The Story with Dinesh D’Souza

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I still have to admire the gaslighting attempts of the OP, especially the ridiculous notion that Sidney Powell is not a good attorney. She's so "bad" that she managed to get the DOJ to do the right thing and drop the illicit case against Flynn, then stood up to the corrupt judge bent on trying and deciding the case himself after it was withdrawn. "You go, girl!" I can only interpret the real premise to be that she does not serve the deep state well. On that point we can agree.

Also, some here seem to need reminding that personal incredulity is a logical fallacy. Believing something highly unlikely or impossible is neither argument nor evidence, except of possible bias. While we may want to know why someone did this or that, not knowing the reason does not negate their action. Understanding some of this manipulative political "studio wrestling" may need more behind-the-scenes access than is available. But the extreme bias of the Dem Progressive Left MSM is just too obvious. You'd have to have chronic TDS blindness not to see it.