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Since I can't get a reply from a Obamaite...

ReformedBaptist

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I will start a thread making it the OP:

How can you vote for Obama who supports abortion? How can you cast your vote for a man who would not oppose the murder of innocent children? How can you do that can call yourself a Christian at the same time?

RB
 

just-want-peace

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billwald said:
No one is innocent. I am more concerned about those who have been born than those who will never be born.
OJ would be proud of the stutter-step in this reply; a typical liberal "non-answer"!
 

SBCPreacher

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ReformedBaptist said:
I will start a thread making it the OP:

1. How can you vote for Obama who supports abortion?

2. How can you cast your vote for a man who would not oppose the murder of innocent children?

3. How can you do that can call yourself a Christian at the same time?

RB
1. I can't.

2. I can't.

3. I can't. And I won't.
 

targus

New Member
billwald said:
No one is innocent. I am more concerned about those who have been born than those who will never be born.

They will only never be born because they will be murdered first.

Perhaps you could relieve your concern for those who have been born by also advocating their murder too.

Would you accept murder as a solution of the poor?

As a solution for homelessness?

As a solution for scarce energy resources?

As a solution for a lack of health care.

Just list out your concerns and then work to legalize the murder that class of people.

At least you would be consistent.
 

SBCPreacher

Active Member
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targus said:
They will only never be born because they will be murdered first.

Perhaps you could relieve your concern for those who have been born by also advocating their murder too.

Would you accept murder as a solution of the poor?

As a solution for homelessness?

As a solution for scarce energy resources?

As a solution for a lack of health care.

Just list out your concerns and then work to legalize the murder that class of people.

At least you would be consistent.
That's good! I wish I would have thought of it first.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
ReformedBaptist said:
How can you vote for Obama who supports abortion?

By the way, the term is Obamanite. :)

My vote will not help Senator Obama be elected president(explanation at the bottom of this post).

The abortion issue if one issue among many that I consider. Abortion does not drive my vote. Abortion does not have veto power over whom I vote for.

There is no way I would ever vote for Senator McCain regardless of whether he is really interested in seeing Roe v. Wade overturned or not. I disagree with him on too many issues and I think he is a warmonger.

Therefore, even if I didn't vote for Senator Obama I would not vote for Senator McCain.

Furthermore, my presidential vote really won't matter as the state of Arkansas is a lock for Senator McCain. Therefore, my vote will not help Senator Obama be elected president.
 

targus

New Member
KenH said:
The abortion issue if one issue among many that I consider. Abortion does not drive my vote. Abortion does not have veto power over whom I vote for.

There is no way I would ever vote for Senator McCain regardless of whether he is really interested in seeing Roe v. Wade overturned or not. I disagree with him on too many issues and I think he is a warmonger.

So what issue or combination of issues are more important than not helping some who promotes abortion into a position of authority?
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
There is none more important. However, I don't elevate abortion above lots of other issues.
 

ajg1959

New Member
KenH said:
There is none more important. However, I don't elevate abortion above lots of other issues.


The lady next door has a daughter that got pregnant at age 15. The mother is a RN and was totally embarrassed by what her daughter had done. The daughter wanted to have the baby, but since she was underaged, her health care can be decided by her parents against her will.

The mother told her that she must have an abortion, and even tho the daughter protested, the mother took her to the clinic, had the daughter forcibly strapped down and they sucked her baby's brains out of its head, all the while the daughter was screaming "NO, dont kill my baby"

This type of situation must be stopped, and NOTHING is more important than this issue, and yes, it MUST be elevated above the other issues.

AJ
 

targus

New Member
KenH said:
There is none more important. However, I don't elevate abortion above lots of other issues.

So what issue or issues are equal to (but not above - since that seems to be a very important hair to split for you) not putting someone who promotes abortion into a position of authority?
 

Andy T.

Active Member
KenH said:
Furthermore, my presidential vote really won't matter as the state of Arkansas is a lock for Senator McCain. Therefore, my vote will not help Senator Obama be elected president.
But the money you contributed to Obama's campaign will help him. So don't act all coy that your vote "doesn't really matter" when you knowingly have put your full support behind an immoral, wicked candidate. If McCain is a warmonger (I assume for his support of the Iraq War), then what does that make Obama who supports the war on the unborn to continue?
 

Petra-O IX

Active Member
Andy T. said:
But the money you contributed to Obama's campaign will help him. So don't act all coy that your vote "doesn't really matter" when you knowingly have put your full support behind an immoral, wicked candidate. If McCain is a warmonger (I assume for his support of the Iraq War), then what does that make Obama who supports the war on the unborn to continue?
Can McCain rally be trusted? I don't see this abortion issue ever being resolved by a Republican because it will always have to be an issue so they can get votes from the Christians. Unfortunately most think in emotional terms on abortion and don't see it in a logical perspective. Turn this back over to the states to decide and start all over again. Don't let the republicans use us and not deliver.
 

tinytim

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ajg1959 said:
The lady next door has a daughter that got pregnant at age 15. The mother is a RN and was totally embarrassed by what her daughter had done. The daughter wanted to have the baby, but since she was underaged, her health care can be decided by her parents against her will.

The mother told her that she must have an abortion, and even tho the daughter protested, the mother took her to the clinic, had the daughter forcibly strapped down and they sucked her baby's brains out of its head, all the while the daughter was screaming "NO, dont kill my baby"

This type of situation must be stopped, and NOTHING is more important than this issue, and yes, it MUST be elevated above the other issues.


AJ

Abortion advocates will burn in Hell. You cannot support murder and be a Christian...

Sin is sin, and if a person doesn't feel guilty about sin, they are not saved.
Supporting the right to murder babies is a sin...

If a person supports murder they are not a Christian.

This country deserves all the punishment it gets from God.
We have elected murderers in office, and those that vote for these baby murderers will pay a price.
 

Revmitchell

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tinytim said:
Abortion advocates will burn in Hell. You cannot support murder and be a Christian...

Sin is sin, and if a person doesn't feel guilty about sin, they are not saved.
Supporting the right to murder babies is a sin...

If a person supports murder they are not a Christian.

This country deserves all the punishment it gets from God.
We have elected murderers in office, and those that vote for these baby murderers will pay a price.


Would you clear that up for me? I am not sure of your meaning.
 

ReformedBaptist

Well-Known Member
tinytim said:
Abortion advocates will burn in Hell. You cannot support murder and be a Christian...

Sin is sin, and if a person doesn't feel guilty about sin, they are not saved.
Supporting the right to murder babies is a sin...

If a person supports murder they are not a Christian.

This country deserves all the punishment it gets from God.
We have elected murderers in office, and those that vote for these baby murderers will pay a price.

Amen and Amen.
 
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