Featured Single Predestination

I showed you your own words that your view is Pelagian. I cannot do more than that. Live in denial if you must.

 

Yes, I said:

You have not proven that is a denial of the sinful nature of mankind from Adam. I do not deny the sinful nature of mankind because of the Adam's disobedance. I hold a view point of total depravity of all men, Romans 3:11.

 

Really then your an atheist how does that make you feel?. Do you think you can convince me by your insults? You need to take your medication your acting like an atheist.

 

If humans are born in sin, they are sinners. If they are not elect, they are not in the Lambs Book of Life. Therefore, not all humans start out in the Lambs Book of Life. If they did, they would all be born sinless, which is Pelagianism.
So, retract your statement that all humans are first found in the Lambs Book of Life or accept you have a Pelagian view.

 

An atheist knows his Bible better than you, MB.

 

You are wrong they are sometimes different things. Was Pharaoh not chosen to be raised up and harden.Was Judas not chosen to be a disciple. He was a Jew and was elect yet he is in hell What good did election do for him?. You can't prove your own election yet you claim you are. I say your full of nonsense and imagination.
MB

 

You show that chosen and elect are synonyms. Pharoah was chosen (elected) to be hardened. Judas was chosen (elected) to be a traitor.
There is no reason to try water down the reality that God, by His Sovereign right, raises up evil to do His will.

Habakkuk 1:5-6 “Look among the nations, and see; wonder and be astounded. For I am doing a work in your days that you would not believe if told. For behold, I am raising up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, who march through the breadth of the earth, to seize dwellings not their own.

 

Your statements remind me of a nagging woman. Are you a woman? because you certainly act like a nagging woman
MB

 

Clearly you are a single person...

 

Nope Married for 45 years soon to be 46 to the same beautiful woman. And no she does not nag.
MB

 

Well don't flatter your self with your imagination I'm certainly not interested. I have been married for 45 years soon to be 46. My poor brother married the nag
MB

 

Proof?

 

As soon as you prove I'm pelagain. This board is for debate of Christian doctrines You say I'm pelagain prove that I worked for my Salvation. I can prove that Calvinist have to work to keep there's. They call it Lordship Salvation.
MB

 

Are you posing as two different characters on this site MB?

 

See what I meant by comparing you to a nagging old woman. The topic isn't MB but single predestination.
MB

 

As I have said, there is no single or double predestination. There is only... predestination. Whether you like it or not, God is in complete control over his entire creation.

 

This thread isn't about control.
MB

 

That's where your hatred of God is noted. You don't want a Creator who is in control of all that He has created. You want a God who places you in the driver's seat and leaves you alone.

 

Theoretically there are four possible kinds of consistent single predestination.

(1) Universal predestination to election (which Brunner does not hold);
(2) universal predestination to reprobation (which nobody holds);
(3) particular predestination to election with the option of salvation by self-initiative to those not elect (a qualified Arminianism) which Brunner emphatically rejects; and
(4) particular predestination to reprobation with the option of salvation by self-initiative to those not reprobate (which nobody holds).​

The only other kind of single predestination is the dialectical kind, which is absurd. I once witnessed a closed discussion of theology between H. M. Kuitert of the Netherlands and Cornelius Van Til of Westminster Seminary. Kuitert went into a lengthy discourse on theology, utilizing the method of the dialectic as he went. When he was finished, Dr. Van Til calmly replied: “Now tell me your theology without the dialectic so I can understand it!” Kuitert was unable to do so. With Brunner’s view of predestination the only way to avoid “double” predestination is with the use of “double-talk.”

Thus, “single” predestination can be consistently maintained only within the framework of universalism or some sort of qualified Arminianism. If particular election is to be maintained and if the notion that all salvation is ultimately based upon that particular election is to be maintained, then we must speak of double predestination.

- R. C. Sproul​

LINK TO SOURCE: Is Double Predestination Biblical?