Featured Single Predestination

Good for you I salute you for your efforts though I do not see any results. You want to love them into truth.
In our efforts to be as Christ like as possible. We have to remember that Christ debated with the pharisee's and plainly told them the truth even though it always hurts. He did not use kid gloves on them.He called them hypocrites. So are you sure Kid gloves are the best way to go. Before you tell me I'm not Christ. I'd like to say in advance that I am not though I try to imitate Him.
MB.

 

Christ was addressing people of the promise. Notice that one of these person's was a centurion in the Roman army.
Those who are not people of the promise are blind.
Unfortunately, you are thinking election pertains to ethnicity rather than to the promise.

 

Only the elect actually obtain salvation, here is the way Peter preaches it.
Only God's elect are begotten again into a living hope.

I divided it into letters to show how this work.

1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
a. To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,
b. who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,
c. through the sanctifying work of the Spirit,
d. to be obedient to Jesus Christ
e. and sprinkled with his blood:
f. Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Notice Hebrews 9:28 agrees about the salvation which will be revealed at the return of Christ, at the end of the age, the last time Peter speaks of.
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

 

The non-elect cant respond positively to the gospel and can not bear good fruit to God.
Refer to the parable of the sower sowing the seed. Only one type fell on the good ground and bore much fruit. none of the other bore any fruit to maturity. That good soil was the prepared heart of the new birth, a work that God did in their life, so that caused them to be fruitful and multiply.
If you do not bear good fruit to God, you are cut down and cast into the fire where is wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Jesus tells his disciples that they will bear much fruit to the glory of God, by their bearing much fruit, the Father is glorified.

Romans 8 tells us about the carnal mind, how it can not be submitted to God's laws, it is at enmity with God.
And contrast that with the spiritually minded which does please God, they are in Christ. The carnal mind, who are the non-elect, are at war with God will never submit to following Christ, it is why you must be born again first.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

 

The Jews were the only ones ever called elect.
You should think the same because there are no Gentiles ever called elect. Jerusalem was in occupation by the Roman army they were every where that does not mean they believed.
MB.

 

So Abraham wasn't elect? Noah wasn't elect? Enoch wasn't elect?
Sorry, MB, you have misappropriated who is and is not elect. Elect is not in reference to national heritage. That was the faulty thinking Jesus was trying to correct in Israel.

 

Then you believe as they do. Can you show me where scripture says Gentiles are elect.?

 

It is for the Jews not gentiles. There were no Jews until Jacob. And you are right Abraham, Noah, and Enoch, were not elect because it hadn't happened yet.
MB

 

None of that proves they were elected. as is the Jews and you know it. Being chosen for what you are assuming?. God said He calls the jews.elect. He refers to them as mine elect. It appears it was Paul who chose Rufus. The only thing to prove that is for God to say He has elected them to Salvation as they claim leaving the rest to go to hell.
MB

 

If God gives to them the new birth, then they are of the elect.
That is how the New Covenant works.
with the new birth, God puts His laws in their minds and writes them upon their hearts, and then He says I will be their God, and they will be my people. And he forgives them all of their sin.

And recall, you dont put new wine into old wine skins...If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.

Hebrews 8
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
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Not every person chosen is of the elect. Jesus Chose Judas so was his election to Salvation or damnation.
MB

 

MB, you should realize that you are living on an island with your position that only people of Jewish lineage are or can be elect.
You ignore the covenants of promise and apply a very narrow understanding of how elect is applied.