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Six Bombshell Revelations from Fauci's Emails

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Revmitchell

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Scientists told Fauci that COVID-19 might be engineered but he ignored them

Fauci was circulating articles on "gain of function" research on February 1, 2020

Fauci tattled on Ron DeSantis but stayed silent on Cuomo

Fauci knew masks didn't work and told people not to wear them

The Chinese penpals

In March 2020, Fauci thought COVID would stop on its own without a vaccine

Six Bombshell Revelations from Fauci's Emails
 

Gold Dragon

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As usual everything in Revmitchell's sources are either false or highly misleading.

Scientists told Fauci that COVID-19 might be engineered but he ignored them
FALSE
After the email release, Andersen tweeted June 1 that "we seriously considered a lab leak a possibility," and "what the email shows, is a clear example of the scientific process."
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The only email that came close to matching that claim noted that while some evidence suggested the virus might be man-made, more work was needed and that opinion could change. The email presented a possibility — a starting point for more research — not a conclusion. The man who wrote that email concluded that the virus developed naturally in a scientific journal article in March 2020.

Here is the article Kristian Andersen authored that concludes that it is very likely of natural origin and not man made. I shared this article on here around that time.

Fauci was circulating articles on "gain of function" research on February 1, 2020

The file that was called "SARS Gain of function.pdf" contained this article published in November 2015 where a North Carolina laboratory performed some gain of function research on a coronavirus before such research was paused in the US.

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence | Nature Medicine

Fauci tattled on Ron DeSantis but stayed silent on Cuomo
DeSantis was openly defying the TRUMP government federal guidelines at the time.

It is fair to say Fauci should be more critical of Cuomo's handling of the NH situation, in hindsight. At the time the priority was keeping the hospitals running and it was not clear that nursing homes were being asked something inconsistent with federal guidelines until reviewed after the fact. Cuomo should also be rightly criticized for hiding the data after the fact.

Fauci knew masks didn't work and told people not to wear them
I've been through this one ad nauseum. Surgical masks don't protect the wearer but provides some protection for others from the wearer. That is still true. It was not recommended when there were few cases and few masks which were reserved for medical staff. Once there were more masks and more cases, it made sense to recommend them for everyone. What Fauci said then was true and it is still true now and none of that is inconsistent with any of the recommendations.

The Chinese penpals

He was polite conducting international communication between two health leaders of the two most powerful nations in the world trying to coordinate the fight against a global pandemic. To the electric chair.

In March 2020, Fauci thought COVID would stop on its own without a vaccine

He was correct. This was achieved in New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan and other countries with good public health policy that the US did not implement and its leaders and citizens unwilling to try despite the clear recommendation of public health experts.
 
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Wingman68

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Does anyone here......anyone? believe that (snip) joe would be in the WH without covid? Covid was the reason for the economic shutdown, the mail in ballot fraud, the shut down of observers, the bringing in of fauxchi into living rooms daily, the lockdown/stress/panic of the general population, the dem govs actually telling people if they wanted their lives back to vote biden, yeah, covid. That couldn’t be a better plan, & China was already invested in Joe. Too many pieces of a perfect storm, imo.
 
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Conan

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Quote "What Fauci said then was true and it is still true now and none of that is inconsistent with any of the recommendations" end of quote.

I heard Fauci himself say that other than catching a droplet or two the mask he knew didn't do any good, he just wore them indoors because of what others thought. Did you not hear him say that?
 

Gold Dragon

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Quote "What Fauci said then was true and it is still true now and none of that is inconsistent with any of the recommendations" end of quote.

I heard Fauci himself say that other than catching a droplet or two the mask he knew didn't do any good, he just wore them indoors because of what others thought. Did you not hear him say that?

quote please?
 

Gold Dragon

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There is a difference between wearing a mask for optics and protection and wearing a mask just for optics. Wearing a mask helps protect others and the optics of it is reassuring to others and helpful to remind them to wear a mask and that we are still in a pandemic.

I still wear a mask in my consultations with patients for both reasons, it is reassuring to some patients and even though I have received my first vaccine dose and the risks are low, there is still a very small chance I could catch and transmit covid19. I don't ask my patients to wear a mask unless they have respiratory symptoms and that is really more for the rest of the waiting room than it is for me. Some choose to wear a mask even without symptoms. Also we have only had a handful of cases of covid19 in NSW for the last 6 months or so and for a period I decided to go without a mask. But with these latest cases in Melbourne I have restarted wearing a mask and one of the reasons is the optics of reassuring folks and reminding folks that we are still in the pandemic and not to let down our guard.

None of what Fauci said is even remotely controversial unless you are looking for controversy.

"I didn’t want to look like I was giving mixed signals. But being a fully vaccinated person, the chances of my getting infected, in an indoor setting, is extremely low,” Fauci said during an appearance on ABC Tuesday. “And that’s the reason why in indoor settings now, I feel comfortable about not wearing a mask, because I’m fully vaccinated.”
 

Gold Dragon

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Yet another gaslighting post based on Dem Progressive Left "reasoning." The FBI "investigation" of Trump's administration was also conducted under the Trump administration.

Yep. So if that conspiracy theory were true (which it isn't), it would have been developed under Trump administration just like the FBI investigation was conducted under a Trump administration. Whether ordered it or not, it was under his watch.

I'm not sure why an American Trump supporter would try to suggest this to be true.

I suggest stick to blaming China where the conspiracy theories are slightly more plausible, only slightly.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Yep. So if that conspiracy theory were true (which it isn't), it would have been developed under Trump administration just like the FBI investigation was conducted under a Trump administration. Whether ordered it or not, it was under his watch.

I'm not sure why an American Trump supporter would try to suggest this to be true.

I suggest stick to blaming China where the conspiracy theories are slightly more plausible, only slightly.
That reveals an ignorance or blindness so severe it may be nigh impenetrable.

It's not that your statement was faulty in its simpleton formulation, but that it is false in its assumptions, thus also false in the implications you imagine.

The Trump administration was targeted by deep state forces, which are primarily Dem Progressive Left and RINO on their surface, that is, where exposed. Sometimes the exposure also reveals foreign influence even of US enemies, such as Communist China and Russia.

There are three branches of government, but only some positions are elected. Many positions are appointed and confirmed, not to mention career, which a current presidential administration may have had no part in, and which may be difficult to correct.

Then there are the difficulties of an outsider like Trump even having people to replace the subversives. Draining the swamp would be a daunting task, perhaps as impossible as breaking through the blindness and ignorance exhibited in your posts.

Bottom line, saying something happened on Trump's watch may mean nothing more than that it happened without his foreknowledge or involvement. It may very well mean that it happened against his express orders, even for the purpose of undermining his administration.

I suggest sticking to medicine and staying away from trying to assess US politics, at least until comprehending this much of what is transpiring in it.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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There is a difference between wearing a mask for optics and protection and wearing a mask just for optics. Wearing a mask helps protect others and the optics of it is reassuring to others and helpful to remind them to wear a mask and that we are still in a pandemic.

I still wear a mask in my consultations with patients for both reasons, it is reassuring to some patients and even though I have received my first vaccine dose and the risks are low, there is still a very small chance I could catch and transmit covid19. I don't ask my patients to wear a mask unless they have respiratory symptoms and that is really more for the rest of the waiting room than it is for me. Some choose to wear a mask even without symptoms. Also we have only had a handful of cases of covid19 in NSW for the last 6 months or so and for a period I decided to go without a mask. But with these latest cases in Melbourne I have restarted wearing a mask and one of the reasons is the optics of reassuring folks and reminding folks that we are still in the pandemic and not to let down our guard.

None of what Fauci said is even remotely controversial unless you are looking for controversy.
Fauci: Right now, in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.

60-Min: You're sure of it? 'Cause people are listening really closely to this.

Fauci: No, right now, people should not be walking… There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people "feel" a little bit better, and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.

It's not that Fauci lied, he just didn't tell the truth. Or he is so incompetent regarding the wearing of masks that he never qualified to make any comments about them.

 

Gold Dragon

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That reveals an ignorance

I agree I have trouble keeping track of all the conspiracies out there. I'm not sure how you guys do it, changing your understanding of history and the world on a day to day basis.

So covid19 was developed in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, no wait it was in Anthony Fauci's basement, sorry I meant Obama's deep state laboratory in his last 11 days in office. Either way after releasing the virus "they" also had the vaccine ready about a year later to kill all the remaining survivors with blood clots or brain haemorrhages, but then that would make tracking them or controlling their thoughts with nanobots a bit redundant. How does 5G fit in again? Oh right it was Bill Gates who developed covid19 and the 5G network controlling people. But wait, I thought covid was all a hoax made up by the media and it is just a flu. So why did "they" need to develop something in the deep state lab that was just like all the other coronaviruses that we already have?

Yeah you are right, I am really ignorant when it comes to making sense of the world of those who believe in conspiracy theories.
 
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Gold Dragon

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Fauci: Right now, in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.

60-Min: You're sure of it? 'Cause people are listening really closely to this.

Fauci: No, right now, people should not be walking… There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people "feel" a little bit better, and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.

It's not that Fauci lied, he just didn't tell the truth. Or he is so incompetent regarding the wearing of masks that he never qualified to make any comments about them.


That quote was from March 8 2020.

At that time there were only 500 confirmed cases of covid19 in the US then and there was a mask shortage for health care workers. So yes, the average person walking on the street should not have been wearing masks at that time. Once the case numbers started sky rocketing and the mask availability no longer a problem, it made sense to then recommend everyone wear masks because of the next point.

It is still true that surgical masks do not provide the protection that people think it does because as I have said over and over again, it provides some protection for everyone else from the wearer but very little protection for the wearer because that is what they were designed to do. This is still true from what we know now.
 
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Wingman68

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I hope you realize that this conspiracy theory suggests that Covid19 was designed by Americans under a Trump presidency.
I hope you realize that even though you have been here, as you pointed out, since 2005, you have the lowest ‘like’ ratio on your 5000 posts of anybody here, even those who you claim are posting lies, & conspiracy theories. They didn’t like your contributions then, & they don’t like them now. That is not a conspiracy theory, just the facts.
 

Gold Dragon

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I hope you realize that even though you have been here, as you pointed out, since 2005, you have the lowest ‘like’ ratio on your 5000 posts of anybody here, even those who you claim are posting lies, & conspiracy theories. They didn’t like your contributions then, & they don’t like them now. That is not a conspiracy theory, just the facts.
I'm not here to seek the favour of humans. Nobody likes it when they are being told their worldview is wrong. Some will reflect and change. Others will keep being unwitting (or witting) evangelists of disinformation.
 
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