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So why do you American Baptists hate Obama so much?

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JohnDeereFan

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I have twice voted for one of the same racial heritage for President, and would have supported Secy. (then Gen. Colin Powell), had he chosen to run for that office. I would support Rep. J. C. Watts, for one example, for that, or any other office, in a heartbeat. I would give strong consideration to supporting Secy. Condolezza Rice for further ofice (although I would not guarantee that particular support without further study, as I do not consider my own personal admiration for personal accomplishment enough reason, in and of itself), and I can easily see, and would have supported Mr. Herman Cain, Secy. Ken Blackwell, Mr. Lynn Swann, and RNC Chairman Michael Steele, in their bids for office, had I lived in any of their states.

I campaigned heavily for Michael Steele in his bid for governor and yet, because I have disagreements with Obama that have nothing to do with race, evidently, I'm a racist.
 

historyb

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OK I just have to ask, I have seen so many threads on this site that slate Barrack Obama. Please excuse my ignorance because I am not American but why do you guys dislike the guy so much? Give me some short,honest and factual answers.

Because he hates babies and loves to murder them, in the womb or out. He hates America and wants to see it's ruin.

I mean you had that morally deficient president...what was his name, oh yes Bill "slick willy Clinton", who abused his power and acted like a sex-crazed, liberal reprobate and you loved him enough to forgive all his indiscretions.

I never did, so you need to stop painting with a broad brush


Then you had the Lobotomised Leader - El George W. Bush, who couldn't say 5 correct English sentences in a row, sent your sons and daughters to die in a foreign land and was obviously as corrupt as one of our south African civil servants, And yet you didn't chuck him out for all his blundering decisions,

Nothing was wrong with President Bush, he spoke from the heart and he didn't rely on technology to give a speech that he didn't mean anyway. The idiot in the WH now can't speak without a teleprompter. Frankly I don't care what a non American thinks, we don't vote for you.

And now finally you have the first black president of the united states who has barely had time to exhale after his election and you stick the boot into him at every turn...forgive me guys but I gots to ask...

I hate him just as you all hated President Bush.
 

Bro. Curtis

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OK I just have to ask, I have seen so many threads on this site that slate Barrack Obama. Please excuse my ignorance because I am not American but why do you guys dislike the guy so much? Give me some short,honest and factual answers. I mean you had that morally deficient president...what was his name, oh yes Bill "slick willy Clinton", who abused his power and acted like a sex-crazed, liberal reprobate and you loved him enough to forgive all his indiscretions. Then you had the Lobotomised Leader - El George W. Bush, who couldn't say 5 correct english sentences in a row, sent your sons and daughters to die in a foreign land and was obviously as corrupt as one of our south african civil servants, And yet you didn't chuck him out for all his blundering decisions, And now finally you have the first black president of the united states who has barely had time to exhale after his election and you stick the boot into him at every turn...forgive me guys but I gots to ask...


WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?????

This post is so full of ignorant hateful opinion that is isn't worthy of a response. Enjoy the bastion of liberty & peace that is South Africa.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Because he's black. Why else?:rolleyes:

Happy?

I contend that it is the only reason our new friend likes him. He hasn't posted one policy decision he can agree with. So far, Obama is little more than a continuation of the previous two.
 

Palatka51

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Still, President Obama is the hardest working man to hold the office in decades, and enjoys very high polling numbers with the population at large.
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So why do you American Baptists hate Obama so much?
OK I just have to ask, I have seen so many threads on this site that slate Barrack Obama. Please excuse my ignorance because I am not American but why do you guys dislike the guy so much? Give me some short,honest and factual answers.

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?????
Quite frankly I do not hate the man. I think that he is a nice fellow. Just because we oppose his polices does not mean we hate him. However for me it is the issue of abortion that just makes my skin crawl when ever I hear him speak.
 
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carpro

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I contend that it is the only reason our new friend likes him. He hasn't posted one policy decision he can agree with. So far, Obama is little more than a continuation of the previous two.

I believe onlybygrace is a troll.
 

billreber

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OK I just have to ask, I have seen so many threads on this site that slate Barrack Obama. Please excuse my ignorance because I am not American but why do you guys dislike the guy so much?


I cannot speak for anyone else on this board, and I have not read any of their responses yet. However, I do NOT dislike Mr. Obama, I dislike his philosophy and his actions.

1. He is in favor of abortion, to the point he has stated he would like to make it MANDATORY for all medical facilities to provide abortions. There is no allowance for a religious objection to the performing of abortions. In fact, it would appear that any such objection could be treated as if it were treason or a hate crime.

2. He (obviously) believes that big government and excess spending is the only way to fix anything. Every economics lesson I have ever learned from anybody says that you must control your spending to recover from a recession. Mr. Obama has repeatedly stated that spending is the best way to recover from this recession, even when all of the money must be borrowed from somewhere else (call that China?).

3. Mr Obama wishes to release the terrorists who have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay. However, he has no plan on what to do with them. He has even suggested moving them into our neighborhoods (in jails, but still in local neighborhoods). He ignores evidence that they are indeed terrorists. In fact, recently Mr. Obama has even been courting closer relations with countries, such as Iran, who have openly supported terrorism against our military members in Iraq and Afghanistan.

4. Mr. Obama has repeatedly (over his first 100 days in office) shown that he does not have any common sense. He has nominated several people to positions in his Cabinet who should be in jail instead, for failure to pay taxes (until they get caught!). He waffles on his opinions all the time, based on the most recent public opinion poll. He cannot talk without a teleprompter. In fact, I have occasionally wondered who is HIS "puppet master" - maybe Nancy Pelosi?

Is that enough reasons for me to dislike Mr. Obama's philosophy and stances on certain policies? I have made it my commitment to pray for the President (whoever it is) for many years, and I am continuing to do so for Mr. Obama. I personally think it is the best thing I can do for him!

Bill :godisgood:
 

matt wade

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Can't help it, may God forgive me. I hate BO down to my marrow and believe me I have prayed about it.

God can't forgive you of something that you aren't repentant about. You have the Holy Spirit living inside of you, with His help you can overcome hate. The Holy Spirit will give you love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance. You say you can't do it, which well might be true. That's why you need to give control of the sin over to God and let the Holy Spirit work within you.
 

historyb

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I'm not so sure it is sin, God hated so I still feel justified. When I see BO I see the evil an evil that is on par with Hitler and pol pot, thank you for your concern
 

matt wade

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I'm not so sure it is sin, God hated so I still feel justified. When I see BO I see the evil an evil that is on par with Hitler and pol pot, thank you for your concern

It's sin brother.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
 

historyb

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It's sin brother.


Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him

BO is not my brother, so I don't hate my brother. You are in Christ and I don't hate you, see.

Now I will disagree that it's sin

"Do I not hate those who hate You, O Lord, and abhor those who rise up against You? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies" Psalm 139:21-22


and I don't pray blessings on Evil which he is, BO is an empty shell filled up with evil. I do pray imprecatory prays for him as David did for his enemies

Psalm 35:5 - May they be like chaff before the wind.
Psalm 55:15 - Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the grave.
Psalm 58:6 - O God, break the teeth in their mouths.
Psalm 69:28 - May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.
Psalm 109:9 - May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
Psalm 137:9 - How blessed will be the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

I don't hate him for personal reasons I hate him because he hates God
 

matt wade

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BO is not my brother, so I don't hate my brother. You are in Christ and I don't hate you, see.

Now I will disagree that it's sin

"Do I not hate those who hate You, O Lord, and abhor those who rise up against You? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies" Psalm 139:21-22


and I don't pray blessings on Evil which he is, BO is an empty shell filled up with evil. I do pray imprecatory prays for him as David did for his enemies

Psalm 35:5 - May they be like chaff before the wind.
Psalm 55:15 - Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the grave.
Psalm 58:6 - O God, break the teeth in their mouths.
Psalm 69:28 - May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.
Psalm 109:9 - May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
Psalm 137:9 - How blessed will be the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

I don't hate him for personal reasons I hate him because he hates God

You disregard the entire verse from Matthew in which we have Jesus speaking and telling us that the old ways of hating our enemies is past and that we should love for and pray for our enemies. Everything you quote is OT. Jesus told us in the NT that we should love our enemies.
 

historyb

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The OT is still valid, I am not just a NT Christian I accept the whole council of God. The OT is still valid, you might as well stop here because you will not change my mind, lest ye not forget Christ also used imprecatory prays:

Then Jesus began to denounce the towns where he had done so many of his miracles, because they hadn’t repented of their sins and turned to God. 21 “What sorrow awaits you, Korazin and Bethsaida! For if the miracles I did in you had been done in wicked Tyre and Sidon, their people would have repented of their sins long ago, clothing themselves in burlap and throwing ashes on their heads to show their remorse. 22 I tell you, Tyre and Sidon will be better off on judgment day than you. 23 “And you people of Capernaum, will you be honored in heaven? No, you will go down to the place of the dead. For if the miracles I did for you had been done in wicked Sodom, it would still be here today. 24 I tell you, even Sodom will be better off on judgment day than you.”

You will not change my mind and I will not change yours anything further is a waste of time.
 

JustChristian

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I'm not so sure it is sin, God hated so I still feel justified. When I see BO I see the evil an evil that is on par with Hitler and pol pot, thank you for your concern

Hating another human being is not justified in the Bible. I thought George Bush was the worst president we've ever had but I never said I hated him. However, I didn't come up to Christ's command when He said love your enemies.
 

historyb

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Hating another human being is not justified in the Bible. I thought George Bush was the worst president we've ever had but I never said I hated him. However, I didn't come up to Christ's command when He said love your enemies.
It is and if you brothered to read th Scriptures instead of liberal love fest ideas you would know
 
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