socialist opposition research opportunity

[Scott Downey]

Read through and you can find out about the mindset of the socialist regarding Trump.
This guy missed Keith Olbermann's recent raving about prosecuting Trump and his supporters, whom he wants removed from society, executed or jailed, the left are so blind. By their hatred and rage, maybe they will perish from heart attacks, imagine if Trump is re-elected, they will be slashing themselves in agony and screaming at the sky with curses, like the ancient cultists did in the OT.

Are These the Last 25 Days of American Democracy?

 

[HatedByAll]

I had to check out the URL. I was sure this had to be on the Onion.

 

[Scott Downey]

I had to check out the URL. I was sure this had to be on the Onion.

yes, not the onion. This is how the socialist opposition thinks.

 

[SavedByGrace]

To make America "great" again, you will have to remove certain people from politics, like Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Cuomo, abolish CNN, etc, etc. These actively HATE any progress of the US, and are on the path to destroying the freedoms that the Founding Fathers put in place, especially the Faith of Christians!

 

[Salty]

To make America "great" again, you will have to remove certain people from politics, like Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Cuomo, abolish CNN, etc, etc. These actively HATE any progress of the US, and are on the path to destroying the freedoms that the Founding Fathers put in place, especially the Faith of Christians!

Well, the only way to get rid of Pelosi is for voters in her district to vote her out. But the last few elections she has
a winning edge of about 80%. As Speaker of the House -she carries a lot of weight - ie brings a lot of bacon home -
and often people will vote for those who have that seniority.

As Far as Cuomo - NY city, (Nearly half of state voters) is highly Democrat- and when you add in the cities of Bufallo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany - which also heavily Democrat- Cuomo is a shoo it. What we need is a well know Republician. I have heard that Donald Trump, Jr is a possibility. Next Governess election is in 2022

 

[Scott Downey]

To make America "great" again, you will have to remove certain people from politics, like Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Cuomo, abolish CNN, etc, etc. These actively HATE any progress of the US, and are on the path to destroying the freedoms that the Founding Fathers put in place, especially the Faith of Christians!

Tough to make 'die hard' people change their minds about anything, I know and have tried. Repentance must be granted by the Father to know the truth, otherwise opponents of the gospel do not repent as they are captured (ensnared) by the devil to do his will. And once your a slave of sin and Satan, only Christ can set you free, no one esle can make you free, not even you. Often times in history of human race, the only way forward was to kill all your enemies who actively oppose you, angels have also wiped out whole armies in the OT. Sometimes God causes themselves to kill each other. God commanded Israel when inheriting His promised land to them, to wipe them out to the last man woman child to dispossess those evil nations who worshipped Satan as if Israel let them live, they would be ensnared with their false gods and intermarry into their societies, customs, laws.. This was God's judgement on those nations.

 

[Scott Downey]

In the NT, when Christ returns and all the angels with Him, He will destroy to the uttermost in flaming fire all of them who are not His people, who are the children of the enemy, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[SavedByGrace]

He will destroy to the uttermost

sounds like "annihilationism"

 

[Scott Downey]

sounds like "annihilationism"

everlasting destruction means never a way out from that lake of fire, their destruction is permanent. Some people claim God will let them out some day, as the destruction is only for an age of time. but everlasting is as everlasting as God Himself is.

To be without hope and without God means an everlasting destruction away from God. and if your away from God, then your somewhere else. I really dont have any concern if they are all eventually burned to absolute nothingness in the lake of fire or endure eternal torment, I lean towards eternal torment myself. You will never talk or hear from them again those that go into destruction.

Revelation 21:4
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Isaiah 65
17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.

I dont view this as a total wiping of our bad experiences, just that surpassing joys and glory of heaven will be so surpassing that the old bad things will fade away from our consciousness, there will also be eternal consolations.

2 Thessalonians 2:16
Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace,

 

[SavedByGrace]

I really dont have any concern if they are all eventually burned to absolute nothingness in the lake of fire or endure eternal torment

sounds very hard!

 

[Scott Downey]

sounds very hard!

God has no pity for those who refuse the offer of eternal life, after they die comes the judgement. And the judgement is certain condemnation.
They are actually condemned already in this life in the flesh because they have not believed.
John 3
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Basically saying unless you repent, you shall all likewise perish.

 

[SavedByGrace]

God has no pity for those who refuse the offer of eternal life, after they die comes the judgement. And the judgement is certain condemnation.
They are actually condemned already in this life in the flesh because they have not believed.
John 3
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Basically saying unless you repent, you shall all likewise perish.

are you a Calvinist?

 

[Scott Downey]

are you a Calvinist?

Curious how theses scriptures point to Calvinism? But yes, I am. The scriptures apply to all variants of Christian thinking.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Curious how theses scriptures point to Calvinism? But yes, I am. The scriptures apply to all variants of Christian thinking.

explains much

 

[Van]

Lots of evil is done by those that think compulsion is needed to foster a Godly culture. Falsehood is evil. Truth, what we believe is true, will set us free from the evil of falsehood. So the issue is how to discern truth. We know by the practice of deceit we will harden our hearts such that we cannot understand the truth of the gospel. Do we just uncritically accept the beliefs of others because they were "good" people? To we go with the majority view? How do we find the narrow way that leads to eternal life?
Were we really saved or damned in eternity past? Or is that view falsehood?

 

[Scott Downey]

Lots of evil is done by those that think compulsion is needed to foster a Godly culture. Falsehood is evil. Truth, what we believe is true, will set us free from the evil of falsehood. So the issue is how to discern truth. We know by the practice of deceit we will harden our hearts such that we cannot understand the truth of the gospel. Do we just uncritically accept the beliefs of others because they were "good" people? To we go with the majority view? How do we find the narrow way that leads to eternal life?
Were we really saved or damned in eternity past? Or is that view falsehood?

People walk out their life in this life of their own free wills from what they think they know, but the light in them is darkness, so they stumble in that darkness and fall into the pit. Their wills are bound to another, the flesh and the devil, they are not free. They are born as slaves of sin and seeing they are flesh go on to death, not having the Spirit of God, until God makes them alive who were dead.

I believe this is all a result of the curse of the fall. God choose from before the beginning of time to who He would show His mercy, really that just tells us God is the beginning and the ending, the author and finisher of our faith. We would have all of us not believed in Christ unless God had granted to us that we will.

You can sense that is what Paul writes to Timothy here about before time began, how this was given to us , we were called by His purpose and grace for Christ to be our personal Saviour.
2 Timothy 1:8-10

8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, 9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, 10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,

 

[Van]

People walk out their life in this life of their own free wills from what they think they know, but the light in them is darkness, so they stumble in that darkness and fall into the pit. Their wills are bound to another, the flesh and the devil, they are not free. They are born as slaves of sin and seeing they are flesh go on to death, not having the Spirit of God, until God makes them alive who were dead.

I believe this is all a result of the curse of the fall. God choose from before the beginning of time to who He would show His mercy, really that just tells us God is the beginning and the ending, the author and finisher of our faith. We would have all of us not believed in Christ unless God had granted to us that we will.

You can sense that is what Paul writes to Timothy here about before time began, how this was given to us , we were called by His purpose and grace for Christ to be our personal Saviour.
2 Timothy 1:8-10

8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, 9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, 10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,

Why did Jesus need to speak in parables, Matthew 13, or why did God need to harden hearts, Romans 11, if the fallen do not have the ability to respond to spiritual milk?

 

[Scott Downey]

Why did Jesus need to speak in parables, Matthew 13, or why did God need to harden hearts, Romans 11, if the fallen do not have the ability to respond to spiritual milk?

v9 shows the answer, God had not given them ears to hear, so they dont hear.
v11, Christ says the disciples have been given to know, that means by God, but God had not given these unbelieving jews a mind to understand.
v12 so everything they have will be taken from them, but God's people will have an abundance
v13, they are spiritually dead, so they cant believe in Christ
v14, this is a fulfillment of prophecy
v15 the people wont see, hear, or perceive spiritual truth, they have actively refused Christ and so then wont be delivered
But if they DID hear, see, perceive, then Christ would convert and save them, But they cant, because God has not given them
as Moses says

Deuteronomy 29:4 Yet the Lord has not given you a heart to perceive and eyes to see and ears to hear, to this very day

9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

 

[Van]

v9 shows the answer,

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
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The answer for speaking in parables was to prevent them from understanding. Thus proving they could understand if not for the parables.

Ditto for God hardening the hearts of unbelieving Jews in Romans 11. God was preventing the Jews from accepting His Christ to facilitate the spread of the Gospel to the Gentiles.

Total Spiritual Inability if true would mean no need for parables to prevent understanding, or the need to harden already hardened hearts.

Falsehood is evil. Truth, what we believe is true, will set us free from the evil of falsehood. So the issue is how to discern truth. We know by the practice of deceit we will harden our hearts such that we cannot understand the truth of the gospel. Do we just uncritically accept the beliefs of others because they were "good" people? To we go with the majority view? How do we find the narrow way that leads to eternal life?

 

[Scott Downey]

The answer for speaking in parables was to prevent them from understanding. Thus proving they could understand if not for the parables.

Ditto for God hardening the hearts of unbelieving Jews in Romans 11. God was preventing the Jews from accepting His Christ to facilitate the spread of the Gospel to the Gentiles.

Total Spiritual Inability if true would mean no need for parables to prevent understanding, or the need to harden already hardened hearts.

Falsehood is evil. Truth, what we believe is true, will set us free from the evil of falsehood. So the issue is how to discern truth. We know by the practice of deceit we will harden our hearts such that we cannot understand the truth of the gospel. Do we just uncritically accept the beliefs of others because they were "good" people? To we go with the majority view? How do we find the narrow way that leads to eternal life?

Not going further with this but Parables hide the truth and teach nothing the lost can understand. Parables must be interpreted by Christ to know what they mean. Parables are not God's attempt to save the lost He knows will never repent and believe, it is God making them certain of their sins, so nothing to do with salvation, only their just condemnation.

Mark 4
10 But when He was alone, those around Him with the twelve asked Him about the parable. 11 And He said to them, “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, 12 so that

‘Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
And their sins be forgiven them.’ ”