Some Pebbles For Arminians To Chew

[Timtoolman]

No, I believe He has done all the work so man can believe.

-Given us His word.
-Given Us the HS to convict those lost and indwell those who are saved.
-He has given man a concouis that knows good and evil.
-He has made nature that cries out His glories.
-He has sent His son as a sacrafice for sin.

No if man was put in a cornor would he repent, no I don't blieve so. However God has made it so man can believe.

 

[Brother Bob]

God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son that whosoever would believe would not perish but have everlasting life.

Is that so hard to accept.

 

[whatever]

Originally posted by Brother Bob:
God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son that whosoever would believe would not perish but have everlasting life.

Is that so hard to accept.

Of course not. Who among us denies John 3:16?

 

[Timtoolman]

But only those that I allow to believe will be saved.

 

[whatever]

Originally posted by Timtoolman:
But only those that I allow to believe will be saved.

You're the one who chooses?

I take back anything I may have ever said about you, even if I was only joking.

 

[Timtoolman]

Originally posted by whatever:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timtoolman:
But only those that I allow to believe will be saved.

You're the one who chooses?

I take back anything I may have ever said about you, even if I was only joking. </font>[/QUOTE]

 

[Rippon]

Unknown author . These questions are found in the Oct./Nov. 2003 issue of New Focus magazine .

1. Can a man have free will and God be sovereign ?

2. If all sinners will and power to come to Christ , why did Christ say , " No man can come unto me except the Father which hath sent me draw him ? " ( John 6:44 )

3. Has any man the power to refuse to come to Christ when the Father draws him ?

4. Have those people free will that shall do wickedly and none of them shall understand ? ( Daniel 12:10 )

5. Have those people free will of whom Peter says , they " were made to be taken and destroyed and should utterly perish " ? ( 2 Peter 2:12 )

6. Have those people free will " who were before of old ordained to this condemnation " ? ( Jude 4)

7. Have those people free will of whom Jesus says , " the dead shall hear , and they that hear shall live " ? ( John 5:25 )

8. Have those people free will of whom God says " I will be to them a God and they shall be to Me a people ; and they shall not teach every man his neighbor and every man his brother , saying know the Lord " ? ( John Hebrews 8:10-11)

9. Could not a man with free will believe , notwithstanding Jesus said , " I work a work in your days , a work which ye shall in no wise believe , though a man declare it unto you " ? ( Acts 13:41 )

10. Does not the doctrine of free will make man the cause of his own salvation ?

The above is relevant because another poster just dealt with this work in another thread.

 

[Iconoclast]

Do you notice these semi pelagians offered the same error back then, as the new ones offer today...

 

[SovereignGrace]

This thread breaks my heart. Brother Bob, who helped baptized me, passed away 3/9/2017.

 

[Thomas V]

"I must insist that the proper order of things is that discovering and discerning the character of Old Testament theology and New Testament theology on its own merits must be seen as a necessarily prior enterprise to the constructing of a biblical theology, not least because we have all seen what happens when the Bible is read through the grid of later Calvinist or Arminian or Lutheran or Orthodox or Catholic systematic theology: the biblical text is read anachronistically and is gerrymandered for various later theological purposes and battles of which the biblical writers were innocent and ignorant. In short, distortion of the meaning of biblical texts happens over and over again as the attempt is made to make them fit a preexisting theological schema." - New Testament Theology and Ethics - Ben Witherington III