Sorrow to Repentance

I understood your position. I fail to definitively say anyone who walks the isle or get's dunked is saved. Like in the Acts, we add them to the roll but by their fruits will you truly know. I consider salvation when one is baptized by fire or the holy spirit. That's why I questioned where they saved at this point or verbally commited to discipleship.

This is where we join back to the prevous discussion. Does man really know at what point a person is saved? Is it when I say I believe or possibly when I get a testimony? I think we agree dunking is not the absolute measurement? I think this is also what blurs into was one saved to begin with?

I personally believe there are some walking the strait and narrow but are not commited to the way or the road. I call them shore christians. Everyone believes in the captian while the boat is ancored at the shore, but let a storm arise in the deepness of the sea... Then you'll find out whose committed to not only the captian but also the ship. Remember, there will be two in the pew, one will go...

I don't want to hi-jack Bro Bob's thread so I will digress...

Edited to correct obvious spelling errors...

 

Language Cop: "May I?"

Ed: "By all means - please be my guest!"

Language Cop: "Thanks!"

"walk theisle" (you mean 'aisle')

"or get's dunked" (you mean 'gets')

"or the holy spirit" (you mean 'Holy Spirit')

"...I questioned where they saved..." (you mean '...I questioned whether they were saved...") It's a statement here, not a question.

"....when I get a testimony" (I don't even have a clue as to what this is supposed to mean!) BTW, your next two sentences are statements, not questions, thus should have a period, and not a question mark, for punctuation.

"walking the strait and narrow" (You really mean 'straight and narrow', here, for I sorta' doubt that you can "walk on water" all that well)

"shore christians" (you mean 'shore Christians') Well, maybe you actually did mean 'walking on water', above! {Sigh!}

"captian" (you mean 'Captain' - and two times, at that)

"ancored" (you mean 'anchored')

"whose committed to..." (you mean 'who's committed to...')


And considering you made the claim of:

"Edited to correct obvious spelling errors...",

may I make the suggestion of the proverb which says:

"Physician, heal thyself!"

:BangHead:

Signed, Language Cop

 

Well, if I'm going to get a ticket then I might as well get my money worth... or do you charge by the correction?(!)(.)

 

Can you tell me the difference between the two?

 

What????

 

Bob, here is your original statement:

On the one hand you say one can commit adultery against their wife,
and then you diffentiate between,
Committing adultery against God (without sorrow).
You have just drawn a difference between the two. You can commit adultery against one without committing adultery agaisnt the other. How can that be>

Now in this post you write something contradictory: "If you commit adultery against your wife, then it would also be adultery against God."

Which post is the correct one?

 

That, of course, has always been an illustration of the basic premise that we disagree with, that premise being:

That a believer who dies with unconfessed sin in his life will not go to heaven.

It doesn't matter whether the sin is great in man's eyes (adutery) or small (lying). Sin is sin. All sin is the same in God's sight. It is a transgression of God's law (1John 3:4). And you say that if it is unconfessed it will keep a person out of heaven, which again, is a doctrine that denies the sufficiency of the blood of Christ.

 

It is the end of it Bob. All our sins are covered. It is the perogative of God whether he wants to exercise his right to chastise that believer or not, or whether he wants to take that believer home to heaven or not. Who are we to say what God will do? Can we command God? Do we know his mind? Some would dare say that Jack Hyles was never saved because his life ended up in a tragic way. It is God that knows the heart. You don't. I don't. The one requirement to entrance into heaven is faith in Christ and his shed blood. Beyond that God only knows. The Bible says, "God knows them that are his." We don't.

Thus if a man dies with unconfessed sin on his heart who are we to judge? If he was saved, then certainly God will save him. He is saved on the basis that he has a righteous standing before God, and he got that the day that he was saved.

 

Thanks for the clarification.


Joe