Sovereignty???

[Amy.G]

Thanks... I asked above after your rather crude remarks about other translations. I figured as much.

I'm indeed wondering, however, how you can so readily support a version of the Bible given us by King James, who persecuted the early Baptists TO DEATH, and who wrote into rule of law in England and Scotland, the fact that all citizens had to be under his rule in the Church of England?

Seems that King James ACTUALLY did the evils so often ascribed to John Calvin (but that he never actually did).

Were the Puritans part of the Church of England?

 

[MB]

Thanks... I asked above after your rather crude remarks about other translations. I figured as much.

I'm indeed wondering, however, how you can so readily support a version of the Bible given us by King James, who persecuted the early Baptists TO DEATH, and who wrote into rule of law in England and Scotland, the fact that all citizens had to be under his rule in the Church of England?

Seems that King James ACTUALLY did the evils so often ascribed to John Calvin (but that he never actually did).

Unlike you I'm not going to slander Calvin I'm just going to expose his name sake doctrine for what it is. It is from men not God. It is not the truth of scripture. Just because Calvin believed in Augustine is no reason you have to follow him.
MB

 

[Rippon]

Augustine was a Catholic as claimed by the RCC and has now reached Saint hood [sic]for his contrabution[sic]. Reformers are called so, because Calvin and others with him attempted to reform the Catholic Church using "Augustinianism" now called Calvinism. Calvin didn't like the Catholic's switch to universalism. which is why he and Luther protested it.

Where did you learn history from --Jack Chick?

Do you understand the meaning of the word Protestant?

 

[Rippon]

The ESV is in the essentially literal catagory. It is way more literal than the NIV but not as clunky as the NASB.

The ESV is not in fact way more literal than the NIV. It is slightly more literal.The hype about the ESV translation principles as contrasted with the NIV is just that --hype.

I have found the NASB95 less cumbersome than the ESV.

 

[Rippon]

Unlike you I'm not going to slander Calvin I'm just going to expose his name sake [sic]doctrine for what it is.

Where did glfredrick slander Calvin?

If you are going to expose anything it is your uninformed contributions concerning Church history.

Just because Calvin believed in Augustine is no reason you have to follow him.

Calvin did not believe in Augustine! He believed in Christ. Calvin highly respected Augustine but felt free to disagree with him on a number of occasions.

 

[Osage Bluestem]

The ESV is not in fact way more literal than the NIV. It is slightly more literal.The hype about the ESV translation principles as contrasted with the NIV is just that --hype.

I have found the NASB95 less cumbersome than the ESV.

You're the only one I've heard that from. The ESV is almost a perfect translation. It is literal and readable.

John Piper has chosen to make it the standard for his ministry.

 

[Rippon]

You're the only one I've heard that from. The ESV is almost a perfect translation. It is literal and readable.

LOL! Are you for real? Almost perfect? Come on now. Well it is readable,I'll give you that. But it doesn't use very good English much of the time.

By the way,many foods are edible,but not delicious.

John Piper has chosen to make it the standard for his ministry.

That's common knowledge. But as much as I respect John Piper's ministry through the years he has been rather extreme in his anti-NIV statements --to the point that even Wayne Grudem had to take him to task for some intemperate remarks. That's saying something because Wayne Grudem has been as ardent an anti-NIV/TNIV guy as there ever was.

 

[Osage Bluestem]

LOL! Are you for real? Almost perfect? Come on now. Well it is readable,I'll give you that. But it doesn't use very good English much of the time.

By the way,many foods are edible,but not delicious.



That's common knowledge. But as much as I respect John Piper's ministry through the years he has been rather extreme in his anti-NIV statements --to the point that even Wayne Grudem had to take him to task for some intemoerate remarks. That's saying something because Wayne Grudem has been as ardent an anti-NIV/TNIV guy as there ever was.

I'm not anti NIV I use it and like it. Recently I have actually been using the NKJV the most. But I do recognize that the ESV is outstanding as do many others it is a very respected translation among bible believing christians. I do think the ESV is superior to the NIV for many reasons though.

 

[DHK]

Do you understand the meaning of the word Protestant?

Do you understand the meaning of the word Reformer?

 

[Rippon]

But I do recognize that the ESV is outstanding as do many others it is a very respected translation among bible believing Christians. I do think the ESV is superior to the NIV for many reasons though.

And you have the perfect right to feel that way. Listen,we've gone off-topic. If you want to discuss this more you can start a thread in the Bible Versions forum.

 

[David Lamb]

Hello Dr. Lamb. I have never been seated under you but do follow some of your teaching. Just so you know, I'm the Grumpy Old Mens Teacher at Silver Spring Baptist in Magnolia, TX. May God always bless your efforts in His name.

Thanks so much for that encouragement, Bill. But I must add that I'm plain old "Mr.", not a "Dr."

Thanks again, and God bless you, too.