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Spurgeon On Calvinism Definite Atonement

Martin Marprelate

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I believe what you believe is entirely wrong as well. I believe Calvinism is fatalism, because you believe man has no say in His Salvation It's his fate to be saved.
I think you are confusing Calvinism with Hyper-calvinism. It is absolutely necessary for men and women to repent and believe in order to be saved.
The elect Jews can reject Christ so can everyone else but this fact shows that man can and often does choose to rebel against God. Remember you posted.
"There is now no difference between Jew and Gentile" so do all Jews get saved? I don't believe so because most reject Christ. You cannot be saved and reject Christ. Christ is the only way.
The default position of all men, Jew and Gentile, is not to believe (John 3:19; Romans 3:10-11; 1 Corinthians 1:23-24; 2:14; Titus 3:3-6). It is when God does a monergistic work on the heart of the sinner that he freely comes to Christ. 'Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power' (Psalms 110:3). God calls His elect people and they respond (John 10:27)..
Gentiles must be chosen cooperatively as well If election and being chosen are the same thing. This is only logical. Yet Calvinist say no and then claim individual election which makes it a choice of God by preference.If God chooses individually it has to be by preference.
It is the good pleasure of God. "I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. Yes, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight" (Matthew 11:25-26).
This can't be either because God is not a respecter of men. Yet individual election is still by preference,
You misunderstand the term 'Respecter of persons.' It means that God does not have regard to people's wealth, position, good looks or anything else (1 Samuel 16:7; 1 Corinthians 1:26-28; James 2:5).
.I believe God choose the world the whole world. Jn 3:16 This not to say all will be saved but can be which is why we preach the gospel not knowing if any will be saved.
MB
The whole world is chosen in respect of every nation, tribe, people and tongue (Revelation 7:9), but you know that all the people in the world will not be saved, and that is not the meaning of the text. You limit the atonement just as much as I do. The 'Great crowd' of Rev 7 does not get bigger or smaller if one is Calvinist or Arminian. And the majority of great preachers have been Calvinist: Latimer, Bunyan, Whitefield, Spurgeon, along with the greatest missionaries: Brainard, Carey, Judson, Paton. They believed the words of the Lord Jesus: "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Therefore go........." I shall be preaching this coming Lord's Day knowing that there are several unsaved people in our little congregation. Therefore I shall be praying that the Lord will use my poor words to open the hearts of these poor people. If I thought that it was all down to me and God was just looking on, it would terrify me.
 

Reynolds

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Not even hinted at? I can give you a thorough presentation of TULIP from the book of John alone. That doesn't even start with Romans or any other passages that have it blatantly obvious.
And many Calvinists get riled up about the "I". They think it should be an "E".
 
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