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Spurgeon vs Hyper-Calvinism

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RipponRedeaux

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My Scots MIL hates you also. Even toasts your demise every NewYears Day! My Indian doctor hates you too. My Irish neighbor wonders why he didn’t support the Nazis in order to eradicate you, so much is there hate for your miserable race. Your nation is the most hated nation on the globe. Face it, oh and if your traveling, watch your back.
Where is all this anger coming from? Why are you being this way EWF?
 

SavedByGrace

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My Scots MIL hates you also. Even toasts your demise every NewYears Day! My Indian doctor hates you too. My Irish neighbor wonders why he didn’t support the Nazis in order to eradicate you, so much is there hate for your miserable race. Your nation is the most hated nation on the globe. Face it, oh and if your traveling, watch your back.

you have so MUCH HATE! WOW!!! I will pray for the LOVE of the Lord to touch you
 

RipponRedeaux

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EW&F, a couple of godly men of the past would be ashamed of you and your attitude: William Williams (1717-1791); Howell Harris (1714-1773); Daniel Rowland (1713-1790) and DMLJ (1899-1981). I have biographies of the last two. And I have a lot of books by The Doctor. They'd all say that your words have been disgraceful.

Welshmen all.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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EW&F, a couple of godly men of the past would be ashamed of you and your attitude: William Williams (1717-1791); Howell Harris (1714-1773); Daniel Rowland (1713-1790) and DMLJ (1899-1981). I have biographies of the last two. And I have a lot of books by The Doctor. They'd all say that your words have been disgraceful.

Welshmen all.
Don’t give a damn… had any of them been coal miners. Work hard with your hands, go blind from the coal dust, loose your life in a mining accident, die of black lung, be forced to work for scum English mine owners then tell me your Welsh. Singers, Pastors, do gooder never worked in the mines for scant pay and sent off to others countries so the stinking English Sais could steal from them and push 8 year olds into the mines cause they could work in tight places and pick slag. When each of these mentioned saints :rolleyes: picks up a pick and shovel and spends 12 hours/6 days a week in a coal mine, then they are Welsh… not before then & not in my eyes anyway.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Now John L. Lewis, there was a Welshman of some accountability, not some churchman. He provided unions to the miners… to the hatred to the mine owners I’m sure. Allowed his race to prosper… put food, health care, better wages and prosperity on the table and in their homes. I’d care more what he thought about me than some priggish churchman.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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BTW Rippon, not one of those men on that list were Baptists… they all were pedobaptists with roots in the RCC. Of course there were some that happened to be Baptists, I believe Christmas Evans, was one. Maybe there was a coal miner or two also but then I don’t know of a Welshman or a Scot or an Irishman that are fond of the English overlords that have a history of having to do business with the Sais. I am fond of George Whitefield but he went to the mines and helped the miners. But most English can go jump in the channel for all I care.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Hyper Calvinism sees the elect as eternally justified, so no real need to evangelize nor missions!
How do you pair those two together? How do you glue eternally justified to no need to evangelize? Please explain that and begin to define “eternally justified( per your understanding).
 

RipponRedeaux

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BTW Rippon, not one of those men on that list were Baptists… they all were pedobaptists with roots in the RCC.
So what if they were not Baptists? You should respect and Christian pastors and Evangelical leaders of the past which the Lord of the Church has gifted us with.

These men I cited had nothing to do with the RCC.
 

RipponRedeaux

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EW&F, are there any Hyper-Calvinists you agree with theologically? If so, which ones and how. If you don't agree with any hyper-Calvinists tell us which doctrines you disagree with and in what respects.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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So what if they were not Baptists? You should respect and Christian pastors and Evangelical leaders of the past which the Lord of the Church has gifted us with.

These men I cited had nothing to do with the RCC.
I do, I just don’t consider them credible in the WelshMAN department! Two different things. I’ve even read their books, read their songs, listened to their sermons… but there is no dirt under their collective fingernails and not a one of them ever caughed up a lung. The good doctor left Wales to pastor a church in London for pity sakes… you can’t understand I see.
 
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