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STRZOK: ‘WE’LL STOP’ TRUMP PRESIDENCY

kyredneck

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He meant that the people of the United States would stop Trump.

He didn't think that the electorate would be fooled by Candidate Trump, but he was wrong.

BOMBSHELL: Lisa Page Says Strzok Lied About Texts

"On the first day of her testimony, Lisa Page shot a bullet straight through the heart of Peter Strzok when she admitted that he did not tell the truth during his testimony. A smug Strzok told congressional investigators that the texts between he and Page were not serious, and did not mean what they said. Republican Rep. John Ratcliffe claimed that Page testified that the texts meant exactly what they said, opening her lover up for perjury charges. During their texting, Page and Strzok showed a heavy bias for Hillary Clinton, and a heavily unfavorable bias against President Trump.

Page testified for two days behind closed doors about her influence on the FBI’s investigations into Russia and Hillary Clinton’s emails less than one week after Strzok.

Strozk denied that texts he exchanged with Page — particularly one promising they would “stop” Trump from becoming president — were indicative of bias that affected the investigations. However, Ratcliffe alleged that Page contradicted Strzok in her testimony and even admitted that the texts “mean exactly what they say.”

“There are differences in their testimony on many cases,” Ratcliffe said on Monday. “She admits that the text messages mean exactly what they say, as opposedto Agent Strzok, who thinks that we have all misinterpreted his own words on any text message that might be negative.”..."
 

kyredneck

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You don't really think that's going to make an impression on someone with TDS, do ya?

I perceive you've little expectation that justice will prevail in all these revelations of corruption within the deep state. I expect that justice WILL prevail if, and that's a big IF, the House remains in Republican control after the midterm elections. IOW, it's in the hands of the electorate, it's their decision. The Dims will squash the investigations if they get control of the House. If the Republicans maintain control, grab some popcorn, set back and watch. :D
 

carpro

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I perceive you've little expectation that justice will prevail in all these revelations of corruption within the deep state. I expect that justice WILL prevail if, and that's a big IF, the House remains in Republican control after the midterm elections. IOW, it's in the hands of the electorate, it's their decision. The Dims will squash the investigations if they get control of the House. If the Republicans maintain control, grab some popcorn, set back and watch. :D

There are beginning to be signs the expected "blue wave" is not going to happen. But I believe the AG to be the catalyst for justice to prevail. And justice will be denied as long as Mueller continues his witch hunt and the guilty are allowed to hide behind the "ongoing investigation" excuse and refuse to answer questions.

Bottom line... Sessions and Rosenstein both need to be fired. Until then, justice will be denied.
 

kyredneck

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Sessions and Rosenstein both need to be fired.

Again if, and that's a big IF, the House remains Republican, I 'expect' Trump to feel free to do just that. Don't expect any action as is, the situation is polarized from all sides right now, no one wants to risk raising the ire of the voters.
 

Wesley Briggman

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Not partisan at all. It was simply my apolitical perspective on the situation. Candidate Trump fooled a lot of people. I especially could not believe that Republicans willingly accepted him as their candidate.
In my opinion, the Republican establishment did not and have not accepted him as their candidate or president.
 

carpro

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Again if, and that's a big IF, the House remains Republican, I 'expect' Trump to feel free to do just that. Don't expect any action as is, the situation is polarized from all sides right now, no one wants to risk raising the ire of the voters.

Another comment along the same lines...What the heck is Wray doing? He's stonewalling Congress on documents and why didn't he get rid of Strzok himself. Why does Strzok still have a security clearance? I don't see that he's doing anything. Did Trump just install another establishment person to replace the disgraced Comey?
 

kyredneck

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Another comment along the same lines...What the heck is Wray doing? He's stonewalling Congress on documents and why didn't he get rid of Strzok himself. Why does Strzok still have a security clearance? I don't see that he's doing anything. Did Trump just install another establishment person to replace the disgraced Comey?

I don't know, good question(s). All this because Sessions is recused? Wray is impotent on account of ongoing investigations? What about Bill Priestep, Strzok's boss?

Still unraveling. We'll never know if Dims take House.
 

Baptist Believer

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“It’s not a superiority complex, I just see things others can’t.”
I would appreciate it if you don’t put your characterization of my comments in quote marks. That’s dishonest.

The simple truth is that at least one of us is wrong. It’s all going to come out eventually, if at no other time, the final judgment.

Perhaps one of us will be vindicated. I’m content to look carefully at all of the evidence and attempt to discern what is true. I read widely and read official documents and listen to what the President says about things.

I became steadfast against Trump when I heard his speech here in Fort Worth during the campaign. I listen to what he says and how often his stories change. Based on his words and actions, I don’t trust the man.

Maybe you do, but I don’t see it. Maybe you are the one ‘with the superiority complex who sees things that others can’t?’ As you see, that works both ways.
 

carpro

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All this because Sessions is recused?

That's pretty much the way I see it. At first , I didn't understand why Trump was so mad at Sessions over the recusal. I have come around to seeing why. I understand now. Worst thing he could have done..and he didn't have to do it. They had absolutely nothing on him.
 

kyredneck

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That's pretty much the way I see it. At first , I didn't understand why Trump was so mad at Sessions over the recusal. I have come around to seeing why. I understand now. Worst thing he could have done..and he didn't have to do it. They had absolutely nothing on him.

If this is so and Sessions is just an honest simple gullible okeydoke, as he comes across as, that simply made the bad decision to recuse, and was genuinely on Trump's team from the beginning, then surely he's doing something to help DJT now.
 

Baptist Believer

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You don't really think that's going to make an impression on someone with TDS, do ya?
It’s not going to make an impression on someone who cannot hear the testimony or read a transcript of the interview. There are so many lies going around, I don’t make judgments based simply on the opinion of someone who wants to paint Strzok in the worst possible light.

Let them release recordings or transcripts of the testimony, or at least take a legal oath with penalties of perjury when recounting what was said. If Strzok lied to Congress, they can put together an indictment and prosecute him. If they are willing to do that, then the comments which appear only on right-wing opinion websites are simply opinions at best.
 

Baptist Believer

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I agree with your observation and assessment of Trump. However, the opposing candidate scored much lower on my evaluation scale.
I agree. I don’t like Hillary Clinton either, but I wasn’t worried about her completely undermining our government. I figured that she would get impeached before her term ended.

I voted a straight Republican ticket, with the exception of Trump, in hopes that Republicans would keep her in check. I lost that gamble.
 

kyredneck

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I wasn’t worried about her completely undermining our government

SCOTUS picks never came into the equation for you? You were willing to have her pick the supreme court judges? (and a whole slough of appellate judges)

What do you think of Trump's SCOTUS picks so far?
 
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Baptist Believer

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SCOTUS picks never came into the equation for you? You were willing to have her pick the supreme court judges? (and a whole slough of appellate judges)
Of course they did. Judges, including Supreme Court nominees, have to be confirmed. That's why I made sure to vote Republican everywhere else.

The issue of basic competence was one of the most important issues in my voting. I did not want our country run by the self-proclaimed "king of debt" who has been quite unsuccessful in business. His oldest son and namesake said at a real estate conference in New York back in 2008 that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. ...we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

The fact that Candidate Trump refused to make his tax information available tells me he has something to hide. Moreover, his subservient posture toward Putin is extremely disturbing. For the longest time, his story about knowing and/or meeting Putin kept changing. Now that we see the President with Putin, we can see a man that -- AT BEST -- displays extreme cowardice. But the simplest explanation is that Putin owns Trump.

I suspect that indictments are going to come rather quickly now, since they just had to arrest and indict a Russian agent because it looked like she might leave the country. They had been following her for quite a while and had an indictment ready to go. I imagine other Russian agents in contact with her are feeling nervous and may also decide to leave.

What do you think of Trump's SCOTUS picks so far?
I don't have a strong opinion. The two picks are certainly well-qualified on paper, but a President never knows how they will perform when on the bench. I will point out that the denial of a hearing on Merrick Garland was wrong (and yes, I've heard all of the changing arguments), and the hypocrisy of the Republican leadership wanted to rush the nomination of a new Justice before the mid-terms is astounding. If it comes out that Trump has been severely compromised by Putin, the public's faith in his picks, confirmed or not, will be shaky at best.
 

Wingman68

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Of course they did. Judges, including Supreme Court nominees, have to be confirmed. That's why I made sure to vote Republican everywhere else.

The issue of basic competence was one of the most important issues in my voting. I did not want our country run by the self-proclaimed "king of debt" who has been quite unsuccessful in business. His oldest son and namesake said at a real estate conference in New York back in 2008 that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. ...we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

The fact that Candidate Trump refused to make his tax information available tells me he has something to hide. Moreover, his subservient posture toward Putin is extremely disturbing. For the longest time, his story about knowing and/or meeting Putin kept changing. Now that we see the President with Putin, we can see a man that -- AT BEST -- displays extreme cowardice. But the simplest explanation is that Putin owns Trump.

I suspect that indictments are going to come rather quickly now, since they just had to arrest and indict a Russian agent because it looked like she might leave the country. They had been following her for quite a while and had an indictment ready to go. I imagine other Russian agents in contact with her are feeling nervous and may also decide to leave.


I don't have a strong opinion. The two picks are certainly well-qualified on paper, but a President never knows how they will perform when on the bench. I will point out that the denial of a hearing on Merrick Garland was wrong (and yes, I've heard all of the changing arguments), and the hypocrisy of the Republican leadership wanted to rush the nomination of a new Justice before the mid-terms is astounding. If it comes out that Trump has been severely compromised by Putin, the public's faith in his picks, confirmed or not, will be shaky at best.
What a bunch of hogwash.
 
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