Originally posted by Rooster:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />A wife is a gift from the Lord so we should say it is right to abuse it? No, would you beat yourself up? Thanks Lord for the gift, I will show you my gratitute by slapping her into what you want her to be. After all it is my right.
Elnora, I am sensing that you might have been on the recieving end of physical abuse at some time, you are constantly bringing it up, the old saying is "the squeeky wheel gets the grease" , if this is so, shame on the male (not fit to be called a man) who did that to you, and if I ever get my hands on him, he would get whats coming, I cant stand "wife beaters" 
, but please do not relate every man as a wife beater because of your experiance, if I am wrong, then please excuse my assumption, but the way you keep bringing up physical abuse, it seems to say that you have been. </font>[/QUOTE]Hi Rooster,
I was responding to other posts that advocate abuse, I took the idea to it's logical conclusion that we should submit from anything from an order to being punched every few months for the supposed glory of God. When you take the pretty words away somehow it just doesn't sound like such a noble thing.
I do know a woman that submits to orders barked from her husband. She isn't allowed to use the phone or go anywhere without him unless it's church. She can't understand why she is so jumpy and her grown children take that out of order family situation as representing Jesus and she can't figure out why they don't want anything to do with the Lord.
I also know a woman who's "Christian" husband tried to kill her by setting it up so she would die in an explosion. Ever sit with a few people involved in a fire like that with burned faces, ears almost gone, legs and arms the skin hanging off? For some reason yes, I get a little righteous indignation. I know God can take the evil used by the devil to destroy God's children and turn it to good for those that love Him. But God calls us to rebuke sin and call evil what it is.
Why did this man do that to his wife, you may wonder. She didn't believe in leaving him and he wanted another woman. Don't want to look like an adulterer. So just get rid of the problem. I know more women like that but frankly talking about it unless I have to makes me a little queasy.
You have to understand that men that order their wives around, up to beating them isn't a submission issue but a control issue. They obviously can't even control themselves.
I had to smile at your response when you thought I might be abused and assume I have a thing against men. It warmed my heart for you to act like a man should and were righteously indignant. Thank you so much for showing compassion and concern. I don't see it often enough in God's people.
But now you have forced me to to defend my husband's honor. And he will get it from me.
Since you don't know me I want you to know that the men in my life have been my greatest examples. My dad was my first influence, he was a real man. Only 5'6" but he was huge! He loved women. In that I mean he never degraded them. He was not afraid to show affection and love to his children. He showed me how to follow a man. How? He lead us with love. And he wasn't even saved yet. How much more if an unbeliever can show love we as Christians. Even the world loves their own. Even the unbelievers know it is wrong to treat loved ones that way. I would do anything to please my dad because he did love us and I could trust him.
We knew his motives in what he did was done for our good because he loved us. He taught us everything and I adored him. I could go on and on about him. He died in 1988 and I stil miss him. Praise God I will get to see him when Jesus comes back for us.
My husband, He is a big man 6' 2" But he is soft spoken and gentle with me, he is well able to protect me.
He is a spiritual giant in my eyes and his heart is as big. He loves me and I also will do anything for him. This part makes me smile because people say I am rebellious because I wont cave to being manipulated or guilted into their ideas. I am in agreement with my husband. People have put me down because I fix my husband's plates and and bring them to him. I help him prepare his bible studies. Serving is my calling, and he is my favorite person to wait on. That is where I am comfortable.
He loves God and he loves me. He has been faithful. He has the patience of Job. Our grown daughters call him for advise. He lets the grandkids hang on him and pick at him. He checks on people and willingly listens to them. He has compassion and ministers to juvenile delequents and has faithfully for nine years. A gift from God because it takes both to minister to rebellious and neglected messed up kids.
Now I do not like to talk about my husband publically because there are women here that aren't so fortunate, and I know women that are hurt and so I try to be careful to consider their feeling, so I try to keep that in mind, it would be like eating in front of a starving person and telling them how good it is. And if they just act right they can eat too. That is why we need to be considerate of those who don't have so much, and try to be as humble in our actions as we can.
Anyway, you must have got the impression from my post that I was abused by a man, so assuming I don't believe in submitting because a man abused me. I don't want anyone to even entertain the thought that my husband would abuse me. I love men and the best people in my life have been men. I thank God for them, and especially my husband.
