Supreme Court: Same-sex couples can marry in all 50 states

[Rebel]

What did we lose? Are you as a Christian going to view marriage as anything other than what GOD says it is?

The world has been saying that sin is not sin for a long time. So why should we do anything other than preach the word?

First of all, the Constitution took a hit today.

Secondly, do you not believe God judges nations as well as individuals?

 

[Zaac]

You may be correct in a procedural sense but if we are looking at this topic as far as rights go, it isn't the Government telling Christians what they can and can't do. It's the Government telling Christians that their job is to ensure the equal rights of the citizens it represents and not to enforce the moral standards of the Christian religion. Hence my curiosity at why we always seem to look to the Government to mandate our morality for us. It has always been a lesson in futility. That being said, once everybody gets past the initial outrage today the other shoe is going to drop with regards to how the events of today unfolded.

It makes no sense. We claim to want less government intrusion in our lives except when the government is siding with our political views. Because this IS political, not moral.

God has spoken to what marriage is. What do I care what the government says it is?

 

[Zaac]

First of all, the Constitution took a hit today.

I don't see it. Justices have been picking the Constitution apart for a couple of centuries now.

Secondly, do you not believe God judges nations as well as individuals?

Yep. And all things considered, the Body of Christ needs to be concerned with its own need for repentance for wickedness is growing because of us.

 

[Rebel]

I don't see it. Justices have been picking the Constitution apart for a couple of centuries now.



Yep. And all things considered, the Body of Christ needs to be concerned with its own need for repentance for wickedness is growing because of us.

I agree with your last sentence. Further, American Christians are not concerned with holiness of life and following Jesus. When you can't distinguish a Christian from the rest of society in lifestyle, something is very wrong. When there is no difference in the divorce rate between the "church" and the society as a whole, something is wrong. When Christians dress immodestly, something is wrong. When Christians attend R-rated movies, something is wrong.

American Christianity is a cultural religion -- a mile wide and an inch deep.

 

[Zaac]

I agree with your last sentence. Further, American Christians are not concerned with holiness of life and following Jesus. When you can't distinguish a Christian from the rest of society in lifestyle, something is very wrong. When there is no difference in the divorce rate between the "church" and the society as a whole, something is wrong. When Christians dress immodestly, something is wrong. When Christians attend R-rated movies, something is wrong.

American Christianity is a cultural religion -- a mile wide and an inch deep.

Amen!!! It's gotten hard to take young men to church because the parents are basically letting their daughters come to church half naked.

It's disgusting.

 

[Revmitchell]

When there is no difference in the divorce rate between the "church" and the society as a whole, something is wrong.

There is absolutely no truth to that fallacy.

 

[Use of Time]

First of all, the Constitution took a hit today.

Secondly, do you not believe God judges nations as well as individuals?

I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and he will hold me personally accountable come judgment. I don't believe I'll go to heaven as an ambassador or apologist of the United States.

We apparently have different opinions on the interpretation of the 1st and 14th Amendments.

Also, kind of reiterates where we place our priorities when your response to me addressed the U.S. Constitution first and God was your second point.

 

[Revmitchell]

Also, kind of reiterates where we place our priorities when your response to me addressed the U.S. Constitution first and God was your second point.

That is a cheap shot.

 

[Use of Time]

That is a cheap shot.

I did that to make a point Rev. Sorry if that was a bit much Rebel.

 

[church mouse guy]

Justice John Roberts: "It is striking how much of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage."

Next we will apologize to Utah for polygamy and we will legalize polygamy. As stupid as Roberts is, even he can see that in the future.

 

[Jedi Knight]

Next we will apologize to Utah for polygamy and we will legalize polygamy. As stupid as Roberts is, even he can see that in the future.

It's all down hill from here as a country......Pandora's Box.

 

[TadQueasy]

Like BaptistBeliever said, "No surprise."

And I'm going to get sick to the point of hurling if I hear one Christian complain about this or get "offended" or talk about how "bad" our nation is

Where was the church on the Wednesday night and the Thursday night prior to the vote that we all knew was coming?

Where was the church on the Sunday before this vote?

Were the church houses bursting at the seams to overflow with God's people praying our hearts out - crying out to God to save us and deliver us? Was the church confessing it's OWN sins out to God in mass corporate prayer? Was the church seeking God as a body and bride?

No.

The church was on vacation. Playing t-ball. Bowling. At the movies. Making dinner. Watching TV. Reading mystery novels. Sleeping. Buying groceries. Writing love letters. Living out our normal secular routine.

And the devil and his world were living out theirs.

The church didn't show one shred of concern.

I double-dog dare them to show any shock and offense now.

:applause::applause::applause:

Dead on Ms Scarlett!

 

[Rebel]

I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and he will hold me personally accountable come judgment. I don't believe I'll go to heaven as an ambassador or apologist of the United States.

We apparently have different opinions on the interpretation of the 1st and 14th Amendments.

Also, kind of reiterates where we place our priorities when your response to me addressed the U.S. Constitution first and God was your second point.

That is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. If you can't respond with more intelligence than that, please don't respond at all.

If you don't think what happens in your country affects your faith, I feel sorry for you. Evidently you have forgotten or disregarded history.

 

[Rebel]

I did that to make a point Rev. Sorry if that was a bit much Rebel.

All right, then disregard the first part of what I just posted to you.

 

[777]

You may be correct in a procedural sense but if we are looking at this topic as far as rights go, it isn't the Government telling Christians what they can and can't do. It's the Government telling Christians that their job is to ensure the equal rights of the citizens it represents and not to enforce the moral standards of the Christian religion. Hence my curiosity at why we always seem to look to the Government to mandate our morality for us. It has always been a lesson in futility. That being said, once everybody gets past the initial outrage today the other shoe is going to drop with regards to how the events of today unfolded.

From a Governmental standpoint, it's amazing it took this long for this to happen if I'm being honest. Good point in that polygamy could very well be the next hotbutton issue but I pretty much have the same thoughts regarding that as well. There isn't the same outcry on that particular subject thankfully. Most likely because most people (hetero or homo) prefer one mate.

Good post though 777.

I meant it, I like the way you lay out your posts and I always find them worth reading. This one was no exception.

That is something to chew over - the US is a little behind other countries on this issue and I haven't heard about a push for polygamy in Spain yet. I still wish it had been kicked back to the states. I keep in mind that my state is one of the few that passed SSM. I didn't vote for it but the majority of my fellow citizens did and outvoted is outvoted. I feel more sorry for all those people in those states that didn't want it because now they have it anyways thanks to five lawyers.

And what I think is is that SCOTUS legislated immorality, or at least amorality, and they're not supposed to legislate anything and in that way, today reminds me a little about RvW. You're also right when you said that your opinion of SCOTUS changes with the wind. I heard some of the same people today lauding this when last year they were still complaining about Citizens. SCOTUS isn't infallible but they sure are weird.

 

[righteousdude2]

There have been some defining moments in our history. This is one of the most shameful. It's like a dam has broken and all sorts of filth has been unleashed.

Agreed! And we all know what a rush of dam water does to those living in the valley! :tear: :flower:

 

[Use of Time]

That is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. If you can't respond with more intelligence than that, please don't respond at all.

If you don't think what happens in your country affects your faith, I feel sorry for you. Evidently you have forgotten or disregarded history.

What goes on in this country does not affect my faith in any way. It's mine, given to me by Jesus and absolutely no worldly devices have the power to take this away. You'll have to be a little more specific.

I'm willing to listen to what points you may have that go to the contrary but so far you just keep saying the same thing while insulting my intelligence.

 

[church mouse guy]

I meant it, I like the way you lay out your posts and I always find them worth reading. This one was no exception.

That is something to chew over - the US is a little behind other countries on this issue and I haven't heard about a push for polygamy in Spain yet. I still wish it had been kicked back to the states. I keep in mind that my state is one of the few that passed SSM. I didn't vote for it but the majority of my fellow citizens did and outvoted is outvoted. I feel more sorry for all those people in those states that didn't want it because now they have it anyways thanks to five lawyers.

And what I think is is that SCOTUS legislated immorality, or at least amorality, and they're not supposed to legislate anything and in that way, today reminds me a little about RvW. You're also right when you said that your opinion of SCOTUS changes with the wind. I heard some of the same people today lauding this when last year they were still complaining about Citizens. SCOTUS isn't infallible but they sure are weird.

There is plenty of polygamy in this country already. Also, if the court legalizes polygamy, which I think that they will, then do you think that the federal government owes damages to Mormons for the federal law in the late 19th century which outlawed polygamy?

For a good treatment of the horrors of current American polygamy, see video and commentary at this show:

http://www.whatloveisthis.tv/

 

[Use of Time]

There is plenty of polygamy in this country already. Also, if the court legalizes polygamy, which I think that they will, then do you think that the federal government owes damages to Mormons for the federal law in the late 19th century which outlawed polygamy?

For a good treatment of the horrors of current American polygamy, see video and commentary at this show:

http://www.whatloveisthis.tv/

What 777 and I said was in no way an endorsement for polygamy.

 

[church mouse guy]

What 777 and I said was in no way an endorsement for polygamy.

Understood, but I am wondering about the legal ramifications of the impending legalization of polygamy and I am wondering if reparations will have to be paid to Mormonism for the hardship imposed by Edmunds Tucker Act of 1887?