Synergist and Monergist: Better Terms

I just unblocked this one post to see if you might have something intelligent to say which might add the discussion. I was disappointed, but not surprised that you don't.

I can't speak for Reformed, but I block those who can't or won't engage in serious debate, not because I disagree with their theological positions. See Proverbs 26:4

 

You got it baby.. the age old arguement played out again and again.

 

Thank you

 

Monergism teaches the work of regeneration is done by the God without any help from the person being regenerated.
Synergism teaches the work of regeneration is done by God with help from the person being regenerated.

.If a person professes Christ, but God does not credit their faith as righteousness, and therefore does not choose him/her for salvation, is that monergism or synergism?

If God chooses those who believe fully in Christ (those whose faith God credits as righteousness) is that a monergistic election or a synergistic election.

No answer will be forthcoming.

 

Monergism = "Lazarus come forth".

 

Don't be so hard on yourself, Reformed. There are at least two "other" posters here you'll never be estranged from: Herald and MorseOp.

 

Still no answer, is that monergism or synergism? ,

 

'The one who comes to Me I will in no wise cast out.' There is no question of anyone trusting in Christ for salvation and then being told, "I'm sorry, but God doesn't like the look of your face, so He hasn't credited your faith as righteousness."

This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all He has given Me [past tense] I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. God has elected a people in eternity past (Ephesians 1:4; 1 Peter 1:2 etc.) and has given them to the Son to redeem. Not one of them will be lost, and none of them are subject to a Divine change of mind.
'And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.' The out working of this grace is through faith, which is in itself the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8), and 'everyone' who believes (not everyone who says, "Lord, Lord!") will have everlasting life and there is no possibility of anyone being subject to review.

Today is your lucky day. But your question is neither synergism nor monergism, but nonsense, which is why folk don't bother to answer it.

 

Martin you can pretend the bible does not say what it says till the cows come home, God credits our faith as righteousness or not. Romans 4!! You can ignore Matthew 7. You can pretend John 6:37 is referring to changing mental outlook (trusting in Christ) but that is ... what was your word, oh nonsense. Coming to Me refers to a change in location because after coming, the person has arrived in Christ and will not be cast out.

 

What caused you to receive Jesus as Lord, yourself or God?

 

Those who will come to Jesus are drawn to Him by God, and enabled by the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus and get saved, as just His own elect given saving faith!

 

Perhaps the problem is with who gets to phrase the definitions. The issue is generally with volition, that is, will, not with action, that is, works. It might be clearer to some of us what we are dealing with, if you can affirm monergism, if phrased thus:

Monergism teaches the work of regeneration is done by God without any consent whatsoever from, even against the express will of the person being regenerated.

If you can affirm that, then I think I could affirm synergism, if defined thus:

Synergism teaches the work of regeneration is done by God alone but with the consent of the person being regenerated.

 

This is straight from the Monergism website:

"Synergism: the doctrine that the human will cooperates with the Holy Ghost in the work of regeneration."

Now compare to your definition:

"Synergism: the doctrine that the human will cooperates with the Holy Ghost in the work of regeneration."

Explain how these two differ please.

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Lol, never mind, you're actually accepting the Monergism website's articulation. My mistake.

 

You ever hear that saying, "Keep your friends close but your enemies even closer"? Sure we've all had/have antagonists/opponents on this board that it's just best if we don't engage, but instead of putting them on ignore I simply ignore them, even if they're quoting me, most of the time. That way I can still keep an eye on what they're up to and engage at my discretion. But, to each his own.

FYI, most folks I'm apt to ignore it's on account of wordy/windy/lengthy posts that I simply don't have the time (or the will) to decipher where they're coming from.

 

Where does "saving faith" come from to exercise then, ourselves naturally, or supernaturally from God?

 

But my definition included human will.

Even though he misquoted me, kyredneck posted a definition very, very close to mine. It looks like your own definition of Synergism may be off. Perhaps because you do not like the right one?

 

Think the main difference would still be on what basis does God save us? We all agree its by the Cross of Christ, but do sinners decide to accept Jesus freely, or do just those whom God decided to get saved accept Jesus?