Team Romney's Jeep Lie in Ohio

[Zaac]

Team Obama tries to run Romney’s Jeep charge off the road

ORLANDO, Florida--President Barack Obama's re-election team waged all-out political war on Monday against a controversial ad by Republican rival Mitt Romney. The ad implies, falsely, that Jeep plans to move jobs to China from Ohio--a charge that could resonate in that pivotal battleground state.
The Obama campaign released a commercial rebutting the allegation, while Vice President Joe Biden and former president Bill Clinton denounced the former Massachusetts governor's commercial as, basically, a lie.

"Now it turns out that Jeep is reopening in China because they made so much money here they can afford to do it," Clinton said at a Youngstown, Ohio, rally. "They put out a statement today saying that it was the biggest load of bull in the world that they would consider shutting down their American operation."

Romney's campaign ran the ad over the weekend in Ohio, where one in eight jobs is linked to the auto industry--and Obama has used his rescue of big car markers to gain a political edge over his rival. Recent polls have shown that the president has a narrow edge in the Buckeye State. Defeat there would sharply narrow Romney's path to the White House.

"Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China," said the voice-over on the Romney campaign ad. "Mitt Romney will fight for every American job."

The ad appears to be inspired by a Bloomberg news report that Fiat, which owns Chrysler, planned to boost its manufacturing operations in China. Chrysler issued a rare public comment that acidly remarked of the ad: "A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments."

Team Romney's Jeep Lie

Yep a man whose morality is based in lies. But for sure the Romnesiacs will dismiss this by saying "that doesn't even compare to the lies Obama tells".:laugh:

He probably just kissed Ohio goodbye.

 

[Revmitchell]

Obama Campaign Scrambles to Discredit Romney's 'Jeep' Ad

Obama's campaign manager Jim Messina said "everyone" just had to know the ad is false. And the campaign ran a commercial of its own trying to tear down Romney's commercial. Except Romney's commercial is correct.

The New York Times reported Romney's commercial says, “Who will do more for the auto industry? Not Barack Obama.” The commercial continues: “Fact checkers confirm his attacks on Mitt Romney are false. Obama took G.M. and Chrysler into bankruptcy, and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job.”

Obama did bail out Chrysler, as the ad says. And as early as 2010, Fiat has been intending to build Jeeps in China, as a ChinaAutoWeb report from 2010 indicated:

BAIC-Jeep later evolved into the now-defunct Beijing Benz-Daimler Chrysler company. Ever since the Daimler-Chrysler alliance broke down in 2009, Chrysler has no productions in China. Now that Fiat, Chrysler’s new owner, has officially returned to China and began building factories, there will be Chinese-made Jeep SUVs again in as early as 2014.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...-The-Liberal-Mother-Jones-Not-On-Obama-s-Side

 

[SolaSaint]

Rev, I hear crickets...lol

Liberals will use Saul Alinski's tactic of saying anything against their opponents to win an election.

 

[Arbo]

Yep a man whose morality is based in lies. But for sure the Romnesiacs will dismiss this by saying "that doesn't even compare to the lies Obama tells".:laugh:

He probably just kissed Ohio goodbye.

Did your handlers at your local DNC office tell you to say that?

 

[targus]

Yep a man whose morality is based in lies. But for sure the Romnesiacs will dismiss this by saying "that doesn't even compare to the lies Obama tells".:laugh:

He probably just kissed Ohio goodbye.

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print...ild-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

Keep on dreaming the dream, Zaac. :laugh:

 

[Oldtimer]

Did your handlers at your local DNC office tell you to say that?

I'm beginning to wonder if he uses a teleprompter.

:type: :1_grouphug: :type:

 

[Oldtimer]

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print...ild-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

Keep on dreaming the dream, Zaac. :laugh:

Yes, some folks do fact checking before blindly accepting what they've been told by those with an agenda.

Hath God said...................

 

[Zaac]

Yes, some folks do fact checking before blindly accepting what they've been told by those with an agenda.

Hath God said...................

Yes some folks need to read that they said

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

So in the words of the Chrysler folks, stop living in a fantasy. This is new production and ain't nothing leaving Ohio as the ad tries to imply.

But that's what deceptive folks do.

 

[targus]

Yes some folks need to read that they said

So in the words of the Chrysler folks, stop living in a fantasy. This is new production and ain't nothing leaving Ohio as the ad tries to imply.

But that's what deceptive folks do.

And you, Zaac, need to read what you post...

From your OP:
"Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China," said the voice-over on the Romney campaign ad."

So where exactly is the lie?

Did Romney say that all Jeep production would be moved to China?

No, he did not.

So where is the lie?

 

[Zaac]

And you, Zaac, need to read what you post...

From your OP:
"Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China," said the voice-over on the Romney campaign ad."

So where exactly is the lie?

Did Romney say that all Jeep production would be moved to China?

No, he did not.

So where is the lie?

And you need to read what was written too. The article says

President Barack Obama's re-election team waged all-out political war on Monday against a controversial ad by Republican rival Mitt Romney. The ad implies, falsely, that Jeep plans to move jobs to China from Ohio--a charge that could resonate in that pivotal battleground state.

Chrysler wouldn't come out refuting the implication if it didn't think the implication was there.

But team Romney knew exactly what they were doing. that's what deceptive people do.

 

[Arbo]

And you need to read what was written too. The article says

Chrysler wouldn't come out refuting the implication if it didn't think the implication was there.

But team Romney knew exactly what they were doing. that's what deceptive people do.

Don't join your school's debte team if you want them to win.

 

[targus]

And you need to read what was written too. The article says

"The ad implies, falsely, that Jeep plans to move jobs to China from Ohio"

That is just an Obama operative's opinion...

And you don't care about opinions - remember? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Oldtimer]

Yes some folks need to read that they said

So in the words of the Chrysler folks, stop living in a fantasy. This is new production and ain't nothing leaving Ohio as the ad tries to imply.

But that's what deceptive folks do.

In a Bloomberg interview, Jeep's president said the automaker plans to restore Jeep production in China, suspended in 2009, and is considering making all Jeeps in China. "Fiat SpA, majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers' operations in the region," reported the business wire service.

Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia and president of the Jeep brand, told Bloomberg, "We're reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity" as well as "should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio" to China.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/jeep-...-to-shift-production-to-china/article/2511703

BTW, thanks, ZAAC. Just added more information to the growing list of confirmations that Romney was correct. Not only will Jeeps be made in China, it looks like they'll be made in Europe, as well.

To counter the severe slump in European sales, Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said. http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...en-missing-fiat-sales-target-by-19-billion#p1

If Jeeps are being manufactured in both Europe and China, every unit produced is one less unit that will be made in US factories. Once facilities are in operation, it's easy to gradually shift production orders to the most cost effective manufacturing plant. Thus, there is no guarantee that in a few years or so, there will not be a pad-lock on the gates of US plants. Or, that only units sold inside the US will still be produced in the US. Thus market share is severely curtailed through drops in exports.

 

[InTheLight]

But team Romney knew exactly what they were doing. that's what deceptive people do.

So when Team Obama's TV ad says, "we're going to ask the wealthy to pay a bit more", isn't that deceptive as well?

I mean, they're not going to "ask" them to pay more, as if they have a choice in the matter, they are going to legislate and compel the wealthy to pay more with IRS law enforcement behind it.

 

[targus]

Things aren't looking good for Zaac...

"Coming hot on the heels of speculation that some Jeep production may be moved to China comes a bombshell from a Bloomberg report. Fiat is now considering moving Chrysler and Jeep production to Italy.

According to the piece, "To counter the severe slump in European sales, (Fiat CEO Sergio) Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said."

So, let's be real clear here, we are talking about vehicles that will be built in Italy and exported to America. The evidence is clear that Fiat is looking at ways to move production of vehicles from the US to elsewhere, whether it be China or Italy, costing American jobs. This is becoming indisputable, despite outcries from certain parties to the contrary.

Mitt Romney has rightfully criticized the Obama Administration for handing over Chrysler to the Italians and now leaving the fate of American workers in the hands of Fiat management."

http://nlpc.org/cached/fiat-says-ch...-says-chrysler-jeep-production-may-move-italy

 

[Zaac]

So when Team Obama's TV ad says, "we're going to ask the wealthy to pay a bit more", isn't that deceptive as well?

It most certainly is.:thumbs:

I mean, they're not going to "ask" them to pay more, as if they have a choice in the matter, they are going to legislate and compel the wealthy to pay more with IRS law enforcement behind it.

No disagreements from me here. Obama is king of the double speak and Romney ain't far behind.

 

[Zaac]

Things aren't looking good for Zaac...

"Coming hot on the heels of speculation that some Jeep production may be moved to China comes a bombshell from a Bloomberg report. Fiat is now considering moving Chrysler and Jeep production to Italy.

According to the piece, "To counter the severe slump in European sales, (Fiat CEO Sergio) Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said."

So, let's be real clear here, we are talking about vehicles that will be built in Italy and exported to America. The evidence is clear that Fiat is looking at ways to move production of vehicles from the US to elsewhere, whether it be China or Italy, costing American jobs. This is becoming indisputable, despite outcries from certain parties to the contrary.

Mitt Romney has rightfully criticized the Obama Administration for handing over Chrysler to the Italians and now leaving the fate of American workers in the hands of Fiat management."

http://nlpc.org/cached/fiat-says-ch...-says-chrysler-jeep-production-may-move-italy

Things are just as cheery for Zaac as they always have been.

Fiat is looking to EXPAND production in China. As they said, they are NOT looking to stop Ohio production or any US production as Romney incorrectly implies so you can trip on down off your high horse.

 

[targus]

Things are just as cheery for Zaac as they always have been.

I would suggest then that you try breaking the pills in half. :laugh:

Fiat is looking to EXPAND production in China. As they said, they are NOT looking to stop Ohio production or any US production as Romney incorrectly implies so you can trip on down off your high horse.

To read into the words of someone else in order to accuse that person of LIES is false witness in my book.

BTW could Fiat move production of Jeeps to China from the U.S. if they so decided?

 

[Arbo]

Guys, Zaac's arguing for argument's sake. He doesn't care about the facts.

The only reason he posts here is for the sport of yanking peoples' chains.

 

[OldRegular]

And Obammy gave Chrysler Motors to Fiat!