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TCassidy

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Do tell me how many of the 58 would have died if Paddock hadn't had any guns?
Had he driven a truck through the crowd, probably several hundred.

Had he planted a bomb, probably several thousand.

Evil is seldom limited to a single means of destruction.
 

Matt Black

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Well, to be honest, our obsession with guns started 250 years ago, when the king trued ti take them away from us.
Strange. We had the same king. And we're not obsessed...

As for American tyrannical governments--the second amendment hasn't been put to that test; but it seems like every time the Dems get into office...
You mean Obama wanted to save lives by restricting gun ownership? Sounds pretty good to me.

By the way -- when are you blokes gonna ban all knives, since I still read/hear about Brits getting stabbed all the time?
Not 58 of us in one go...come back to me on that one when it happens. Until then, apples and oranges...
 

Matt Black

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Had he driven a truck through the crowd, probably several hundred.

Had he planted a bomb, probably several thousand.

Evil is seldom limited to a single means of destruction.
I see...so, because rape also happens, we shouldn't try to tackle murder? Because there is cancer, we shouldn't try to cure heart disease?
 

TCassidy

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But the 2nd Amendment kind of helped. I mean, you don't kill too many people by going up to them, pointing two fingers at them and shouting 'Bang!'

7 July 2005 London bombings 52 dead, 700+ injured

2 June 2010 Cumbria shootings 12 dead, 11 injured

22 March 2017 London, England 6 dead, 49 injured

22 May 2017 Manchester, England 23 dead 250+ injured

3 June 2017 London, England 8 dead, 48 injured

Why didn't you do anything to stop this slaughter?

Seems to me you should clean up your own country before giving advice on how we should clean up ours. Especially in light of the fact that England has a violent crime rate 5 times higher than the US.
 

TCassidy

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I see...so, because rape also happens, we shouldn't try to tackle murder?
No, obviously you don't see. I never said any such thing. Rape is illegal. Murder is illegal. A law abiding citizen owning a gun is not illegal.
 

Matt Black

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Tell me how many of those were gun massacres? Cumbria is the only one on your list. But, you know, if you want to move the goalposts to include terrorist attacks and body counts rather than guns which I thought this thread was about , then let's talk 9/11: 3000+ dead...
 

TCassidy

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You didn't. Don't try and weasel you way out again! I've cross examined enough people to know that when I see it...
I did. What part didn't you understand? Just let me know. I will try to explain it to you using little words and short sentences.
 

Matt Black

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No, obviously you don't see. I never said any such thing. Rape is illegal. Murder is illegal. A law abiding citizen owning a gun is not illegal.
You see, there's your problem: they're all law abiding citizens legally owning firearms...until they're pointing the legally owned firearm at you and pulling the trigger. Get back to me when you've solved that one...
 

TCassidy

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Get back to me when you've solved that one.
You see, there's your problem: they're all law abiding citizens legally having two hands...until they're punching you in the nose with those legal two hands. So, according to your idiotic theory everybody should have to have their hands amputated.
 

Matt Black

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You see, there's your problem: they're all law abiding citizens legally having two hands...until they're punching you in the nose with those legal two hands. So, according to your idiotic theory everybody should have to have their hands amputated.
Again, come back to me when 58 people have been killed by one man with his fists
 

HankD

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Sorry, but I don't see how you can claim to be pro-life and support a status quo that results in the sort of events the world witnessed on Sunday in Vegas. No amount of mental gymnastics and diversion tactics are going to dig you out of that hole.
So say you.

HankD
 
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