Terrorism

[emeraldctyangel]

Originally posted by Delivered:

They would have remained captive like prisoners in jail here in the USA even if Jimmy Carter tried to set them free? Just a guess.
I don't remember saying almighty and powerful?

With the way you switch positions as the 'Devil's Advocate', it appears you have no capacity for memory. Fairly common when you dabble in things you do not understand. Who is the 'they' which you refer to and what jail?

The photo of the detainee with panties on his head should have never happened. It was wrong then and wrong now. As a rule, we do not treat people this way. But since you want to be one of the Romans that bash Rome, let me correct you.?

"Bash'? If you have a valid point, there is no need to attack the questioner.

That was not an attack. If you are so willing to dish out your issues onto others here under the innocent guise, then you need to learn to take a little heat when it becomes apparent you are just using tactics to spew your self hatred. Heal thyself. And if you feel attacked, then it should be apparent that playing the devils anything is not in your best interest.

I have done this job for years, and only in the last four have I had to take on this responsibility with these people who would rather slit our throats than anything else in this world. They hate America and all it stands for - which includes the freedom of allowing a woman to wear what she likes, uncover her face, and speak as she will. They want to kill YOU and ME for that.

So all this mayhem is because of women? I should have known.

Cheap shot. Typical. What a pity.

So when I do my job, it must be extremely harsh on their psyches to submit to my escorting them to medical and delivering their meals. .

LOL come on if that doesn't sound like "perverse pleasure" what does lol

Well, this coming from someone so willing to discuss homosexuality, I guess you might know more about this than I. I shall leave the topic of perverse pleasure to you. As for me, I just do my job, so that my son may not have to put on a uniform and do it. I will never stand by and do nothing but flap my gums while the rest of the world watches on tv as people choose to jump from tall buildings rather than burn to death. Thanks. I will take my lifestyle over yours any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

They cant and wont survive in the world we live in. They will implode and they will take whomever they can with them. I struggle daily in deep prayer trying to maintain my Christian love for them...even though they would kill me on the spot.

The nerve of them not to accept our world.

Youve got a lot to learn. Perhaps you missed the "kill any American, any where, using all means necessary" fatwah issued by your poster child of humanity, Osama. The nerve of us not accepting his.

 

[Delivered]

DHK post shows he/she is probably a good moderator. Sorry for expressing a different view. I'll leave you with your feel good about yourselves thoughts. And as far as the many people who don't see religion or the world exactly as you do, well thats why there is a hell.

 

[OCC]

What did DHK do to you Delivered? He gave a reference to a story in India.

 

[Delivered]

He post seemed even keeled and Christian like. The other posters have a lot of hate and prejudice in their hearts. JMHO.

 

[OCC]

Oh ok...it looked like you were talking about him too and I couldn't figure out why. Sorry.

 

[StraightAndNarrow]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by shannonL:
Delivered,

My 11 year old daughter can answer that question and answer it with zeal. Please... If that is the attitude of most folk in this country then we don't deserve to win the war on terror. I would tell folk that ask you that stupid question to move to Iraq for a few months and see if they can figure out the difference.

Who started this war? Why? </font>[/QUOTE]The terrorists did because they hate us, because we are the opposite of everything they believe in. </font>[/QUOTE]Wrong answer. Bush started this war in Iraq because he wanted to occupy the oilfields. You realize we're buildinf permanent bases in Iraq, right? Yes, we had a terrorism problem before invading Iraq but it's gotten much worse since then.

 

[emeraldctyangel]

Let me get this straight - You asked an innocent sounding question, and when you received the answer, you used your 'Christian' love by hitting us over the head with your own ego and self effacing hate. If you are some kind of comedian, perhaps you should seek another topic. Terrorism is too close to home for some of us to enjoy the witty banter you might engage in at cocktail parties or whatever.

No hate here. Prejudice? Sounds like you are flipping typical cards into the debate because you have nothing of value to add. OR you have entirely different definitions of hate and prejudice than the rest of us.

I suppose I could have appreciated your opinions more if you had not used your church as a platform to speak out on your personal opinions of certain worldly topics. And it would have helped immensely if you knew what it was you were talking about instead of launching into something that sounded like a headline from the National Enquirer.

Lastly, if I were you, I would certainly cease commenting on what others have in their hearts. You dont know any more about that than you know about your topic. Talk about prejudice....

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Joseph Botwinick

[ July 17, 2005, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
Bush started this war in Iraq because he wanted to occupy the oilfields.

Baloney.

Al Qaeda and their sympathizers like the Taliban started this war. And the Iraqi government was an al Qaeda sympathizer as well.

Civilians get killed in wars all of the time. The terrorists intentionally kill civilians, go out of their way to kill civilians, make sure they kill civilians.

We kill civilians because it is unavoidable in killing the terrorists or bringing about the unconditional surrender of nations like Germany and Japan in World War II.

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:


Joseph Botwinick

[ July 17, 2005, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

[emeraldctyangel]

Odd, in the six months I 'occupied' Iraq, I never saw any oil to steal, since you know I am entitled to the spoils of war? Oh brother.

What some people do not know about the reasons for war - is a lot.

 

[Petrel]

Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
Bush started this war in Iraq because he wanted to occupy the oilfields.

It's likely we'll get more of a market share of Iraqi oil in the next few years, but we're not really getting any right now because the infrastructure is so damaged it needs to be put right before production can go up to its normal level. This isn't going to happen until Bush is out of office. The sole result of this will be marginally cheaper gasoline in the US. Then ex-President Bush will receive the same perk as everyone else in the US--saving a few cents a gallon at the pump.

So what is President Bush's pressing personal interest in Iraqi oil? Leaving out conspiracy theories, of course.

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by emeraldctyangel:
Odd, in the six months I 'occupied' Iraq, I never saw any oil to steal, since you know I am entitled to the spoils of war? Oh brother.

What some people do not know about the reasons for war - is a lot.

They don't have oil there?

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Originally posted by Petrel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
Bush started this war in Iraq because he wanted to occupy the oilfields.

It's likely we'll get more of a market share of Iraqi oil in the next few years, but we're not really getting any right now because the infrastructure is so damaged it needs to be put right before production can go up to its normal level. This isn't going to happen until Bush is out of office. The sole result of this will be marginally cheaper gasoline in the US. Then ex-President Bush will receive the same perk as everyone else in the US--saving a few cents a gallon at the pump.

So what is President Bush's pressing personal interest in Iraqi oil? Leaving out conspiracy theories, of course. </font>[/QUOTE]You may be asking a bit much there,

Joseph Botwinick

[ July 17, 2005, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Petrel:
So what is President Bush's pressing personal interest in Iraqi oil?

He has none.

 

[OCC]

Let me get this straight. You don't like people saying Bush has similarities to Hitler yet you make very sweeping generalizations of ALL liberals and then you accuse ALL liberals of having mental disorders? And THEN you talk about THEIR hateful rhetoric?

Joseph...I'm sure you can write better things than that.

[ July 17, 2005, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Let me get this straight.

Joseph Botwinick

[ July 17, 2005, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

[emeraldctyangel]

Yes there is oil there. About 1/3 of the world's oil supply is sitting under the sands of Iraq. And the problem is..wait for it...
Saudi Arabia.

They do not wish for more oil to infiltrate the world's supply system because it would cause all oil prices to drop.

The President's personal interest in Iraqi oil? I would say no more than any other American's personal interest. I have read many things on the President's commitment to alternative fuels - we use them in the military already - and I am praying that people will embrace it and move on. That would take a great deal of bargaining chips out of oil rich countries bag of tools.

Without oil, there would still be struggle for power and strife. And there will be people perverting their religious teachings to stretch it to fit their hatred.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by emeraldctyangel:
and I am praying that people will embrace it and move on

www.setamericafree.org/blueprint.pdf

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
Let me get this straight. You don't like people saying that liberalism is a mental disorder, but have no problem making comparisons between Bush and Hitler?

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, and we see more and more evidence of it everyday.

Joseph Botwinick

No I don't have a problem making comparisons between them. We went over that before. Propaganda techniques to win over the people, etc. etc. etc.

Would you like it if I said conservatism is a disease which causes people to think only of themselves while leaving other poor souls to die cuz they "couldn't cut it"? One which causes people to support a war at the same time making the excuse..."well...if they call me I'll go..."?