...nor consistent with the teaching of their Lord on marriage.
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Texas Baptist Church to Allow Ministers to Perform Same Sex Marriages
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I had to like that post because it is so funny. Have you read Jesus teaching on divorce? He most certainly does allow provision for divorce.
1689Dave
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He was commenting on the Old Covenant. It does not apply under the New Covenant.
Divorce was very easy in the Old Covenant. Remarriage was not punishable by death.
No. He talked about the Old Covenant provision then said in the New Covenant, divorce was only permitted for sexual immorality.
1689Dave
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No, divorce was Moses' law. Not the New Covenant.
1689Dave
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We're talking about you producing one reference saying divorce is a NT option for Christians.
MT 19:9
MT 19:9
1689Dave
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Jesus' OT Commentary.
1689Dave
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#2500
I don't know how to have a meaningfuldiscussion with someone who has such severe reading comprehension issues.
1689Dave
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Read Jeremiah 31:31–33. The New Covenant replaced the Law with its divorce provisions. It is not part of the New Covenant other than for commentary and instruction. = no divorce provisions.
Matthew 19:9 NASB
And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery .”
If this was o.t. commentary, Jesus was a poor student of the law. Verse 9 is the new command regarding divorce. Not very hard to understand.
Lets try this again - you stated that if a church allows a divorced person to be re-married - they they will have no problem allowing a SS marriage.
That is what I disagree with! MANY churches will allow a re-marriage but would NEVER allow a SSM.
Therefore - your initial statement is incorrect.
Now, if you want to discuss a wedding with a divorced person - that is a totally different subject ( ie start a new thread on it.) Which I just did -- click here
Baptist pastors should not be performing marriages in my opinion. There is no Biblical basis for it.
Unless they want to take a greater interest in all aspects of their flock, They should avoid being in the marriage business - unless it's their side gig.
In addition, I would estimate that at least 75% of all marriages performed by pastors are adulterous if you want to go by the strictest Jesus definition. That being said, Jesus did say he was most concerned justice, mercy, and faith. One of the reasons why he hated divorce was the men were doing - ditching their older wives to fend for themselves and obtaining younger ones.
In addition, people were using aspects of the law to sleep with whom they chose. Tired of sleeping with one man. Get a divorce and sleep with the next one and so one. The truest perversion of the marriage code is actually in Islam where temporary marriages are allowed which basically OKs prostitution.
Reading all the laws of the Old Testament as well as the stories helps to clarify what Jesus was trying to prevent in the New Testament.
1689Dave
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Adultery and homosexuality were sins of equal weight in the OT. So divorce and remarriage being adultery, in that divorce is not a NT provision, churches are inconsistent allowing one sin and not another. If you want to drag Matthew 19:9 into the debate, all ready ruled out because it is not part of the New Covenant, you still loose. Because the innocent wife, divorced from the adulterous husband, still commits adultery along with the man she marries.
1689Dave
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Divorce is not a NT provision. If you want to drag Matthew 19:9 into the debate, all ready ruled out because it is not part of the New Covenant, you still have a problem. Because the innocent wife, divorced from the adulterous husband, still commits adultery along with the man she marries in that scenario.
Yep, Calvinist lame argument point #3, THAT VERSE WAS NOT WRITTEN TO THE PEOPLE YOU ARE CLAIMING;
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