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Texas' Restrictive Voter ID Law Stops A Former U.S. House Speaker From Getting A Vote

Zaac

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Please detail how someone can:

1. Know the name of a voter with a lapsed registration.

2. Know the address of this voter.

3. Know how to forge their signature.

4. Repeat this on a mass scale.

:laugh: Sounds like somebody is really trying to produce a crisis.
 
Please detail how someone can:

1. Know the name of a voter with a lapsed registration.
They don't need to know someone whose registration is lapsed. All they need to do is read the obituaries and find out who died yesterday.

2. Know the address of this voter.
Phone book, city directory, google.

3. Know how to forge their signature.
What makes you think the election board checks the signatures on a voter registration card? All they do is see if it's signed.

4. Repeat this on a mass scale.
How hard is it to repeat it on a mass scale? And remember, I said it doesn't need to be repeated on that great a scale. And they've got 24 million potential fake registrations to work with. If they can't get one past scrutiny -- very limited scrutiny at that -- move to the next one.
 

InTheLight

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How hard is it to repeat it on a mass scale? And remember, I said it doesn't need to be repeated on that great a scale. And they've got 24 million potential fake registrations to work with. If they can't get one past scrutiny -- very limited scrutiny at that -- move to the next one.

How hard is it? Very hard. If they can't get past precinct #1 they just go to precinct #2. You don't think polling judges phone the other precincts and tell them to be on the lookout? My mother-in-law was a polling judge for decades. They do communicate if only to ask how many voters they've had show up. They'd be sure to tell about someone they caught trying to fraudulently vote and to be on the lookout.

Polls are only open for 13 hours. Typically, there are lines. A couple dozen people could not logistically vote multiple times across several polling places. Do you think a dozen people could vote 20 times each in 20 different precincts? That's only 240 votes. Is that enough to swing an election?

You would need thousands of "volunteers" to fan out across a precinct (city, county, state) to make a difference in an election. Where are you going to round up these many people willing to commit a felony? If successful in one polling place they would need to go to another. If you say you might only need a couple dozen in a small district to make a difference then you are running the risk that the polling judges would know the dead person.
 
How hard is it? Very hard. If they can't get past precinct #1 they just go to precinct #2. You don't think polling judges phone the other precincts and tell them to be on the lookout?
ITL, were talking registrations here, not voting booths! Get that through your head. Once they manage to get their forgery by the election board, it's all down hill from there. Just go to the polls and sign the ledger with the name on the (illegal) registration card. No one is going to challenge you for ID, because most states don't have the ID law in place we're saying they should have!!!

My mother-in-law was a polling judge for decades. They do communicate if only to ask how many voters they've had show up. They'd be sure to tell about someone they caught trying to fraudulently vote and to be on the lookout.
Irrelevant. Registration, not voting, not a ballot.

Polls are only open for 13 hours. Typically, there are lines. A couple dozen people could not logistically vote multiple times across several polling places. Do you think a dozen people could vote 10 times each in 10 different precincts? That's only a 240 votes. Is that enough to swing an election?
Irrelevant. Registration, not voting, not a ballot.

[/quote]Irrelevant. Registration, not ballot.You would need thousands of "volunteers" to fan out across a precinct (city, county, state) to make a difference in an election. Where are you going to round up these many people willing to commit a felony? If successful in one polling place they would need to go to another. If you say you might only need a couple dozen in a small district to make a difference then you are running the risk that the polling judges would know the dead person.[/quote]Irrelevant. Registration, not voting, not a ballot.
 

just-want-peace

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Interesting, that with all the situations that require some type of photo ID, the liberals apparently have no problem with any of them - except voting.

WONDER WHY???? :BangHead: :confused: :rolleyes:

RHETORICAL QUESTION!!
 

Revmitchell

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Interesting, that with all the situations that require some type of photo ID, the liberals apparently have no problem with any of them - except voting.

WONDER WHY???? :BangHead: :confused: :rolleyes:

RHETORICAL QUESTION!!

Don't have to wonder. They want illegals to be able to vote illegally so they have expand their voter base. Liberals are just dishonest people by nature and the knucklhead in the whitehouse is the biggest one of them all.
 

InTheLight

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ITL, were talking registrations here, not voting booths! Get that through your head. Once they manage to get their forgery by the election board, it's all down hill from there. Just go to the polls and sign the ledger with the name on the (illegal) registration card. No one is going to challenge you for ID, because most states don't have the ID law in place we're saying they should have!!!

Well, that's one whole vote then. Big deal.

Irrelevant. Registration, not voting, not a ballot.

Irrelevant. Registration, not voting, not a ballot.

Nope. You were talking about people already registered. You said this:

As long as the names remain on the rolls, someone can vote the name, even if they aren't that person.

and this:

But as mentioned, if the names are on the rolls for whatever reason, someone can vote the name, even if they aren't the person.
But as mentioned, if the names are on the rolls for whatever reason, someone can vote the name, even if they aren't the person.
 
Well, that's one whole vote then. Big deal.
So casting an illegal vote isn't a big deal? What makes it a big deal? When it is repeated twice in a precinct? How about five times? Ten times? How about a million times across the nation? How about a million times in a swing state where the final tally, depending on whether it is "accurate" or not due to illegal votes, is decided by a mere 5,000 votes? Is that a big deal? Is it worth risking not having a simple law on the books that requires ID to be presented so the judges know you are, in fact, who you say you are?

Maybe it would be a big deal if Republicans stole an election that way. Would it be a big deal then?

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InTheLight

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So casting an illegal vote isn't a big deal? What makes it a big deal? When it is repeated twice in a precinct? How about five times? Ten times? How about a million times across the nation? How about a million times in a swing state where the final tally, depending on whether it is "accurate" or not due to illegal votes, is decided by a mere 5,000 votes? Is that a big deal? Is it worth risking not having a simple law on the books that requires ID to be presented so the judges know you are, in fact, who you say you are?

Maybe it would be a big deal if Republicans stole an election that way. Would it be a big deal then?

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You need to present a believable way for even 200 illegal votes to be cast in any one precinct. When you can show how that can be done, in a believable manner, I'll comment. Our system is set up so that 100,000 illegal votes spread across the nation will likely not cause a change in any single election for national office. There is no way that a million illegal votes could be cast in the nation, never mind in a swing state.

Remember, you can't know which precinct will be a swing precinct. The precinct lines are redrawn every 10 years. It is very unlikely to know where to concentrate your illegal votes to leverage them into stealing an election.
 

OldRegular

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What is ridiculous is whining about an elderly person and a former representative who should know better who did not abide by the law. There are several options other than his expired DL. There is no excuse. Even our representatives need to obey the law.

What is shameful is trying to use an elderly person to make hey out of nothing just because you want illegals to vote and expand the dems voting base.

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