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Texas' Restrictive Voter ID Law Stops A Former U.S. House Speaker From Getting A Vote

Salty

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Salty, because of common courtesy and respect for the elderly. Seems we have far too little of either in our society these days .... IMHO.

If you are having to wait that long then the process in your area needs to do something about the polls and the voting process. I have never waited more than ten minutes and I live in an urban area.

In large cities - you may wait a very long time.
As you, I have never waited more than 10 mintues.

But again, I have no problem having chairs for those who are truly handicap. Problem is - if the officals let one handicap person CUT in line - whats to prevent others to CLAIM a handicap to CUT in line.?

Let me take this a step further - should a person in a wheelchair be allowed to CUT in line to vote?
 

Bro. Curtis

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Whoa, I am starting to worry about your state of mind. I really do not know if you are disillusion or having early Alzheimer's. I've never heard of Lois Lerner much less talked about her. [I looked her up online. Nope, never talked about her. I see she was involved in a scandal during the summer. And you are totally off topic .... again. Sorry fellow.]

No, I won't report you. I really am beginning to feel sorry for you.

Keep yourself ignorant. Honesty would absolutely destroy what you hold dear. I don't blame you. But I can hardly consider you a worthy debate opponent if you are truly that ignorant of current events. And the reason Lois Lerner is ON TOPIC is because of your bogus claim that voter fraud doesn't exist. It does. Lois Lerner resigned over it. Try the truth, C.T.Boy, for just this one time.
 
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Crabtownboy

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Keep yourself ignorant. Honesty would absolutely destroy what you hold dear. I don't blame you. But I can hardly consider you a worthy debate opponent if you are truly that ignorant of current events.

Still off topic and showing your lack of critical thinking ... as well as memory loss.

I guess we just have to humor you and feel sorry for you.

Now, try to reply on the topic of the thread. Do ya think that is possible.

It is a stupid law and was never aimed at voter fraud. That has been shown as false.
 

Revmitchell

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How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures

Here are the facts:

To date, 46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain on the rolls nation-wide.
There are over 1.8 million dead voters still eligible on the rolls across the country.
More than 2.75 million Americans are registered to vote in more than one state.
True The Vote recently found 99 cases of potential felony interstate voter fraud.
Maryland affiliates of True The Vote uncovered cases of people registering and voting after their respective deaths.
This year, True The Vote uncovered more than 348,000 dead people on the rolls in 27 states.
California: 49,000
Florida: 30,000
Texas: 28,500
Michigan: 25,000
Illinois: 24,000
12 Indiana counties have more registered voters than residents.
The Ohio Secretary of State admitted that multiple Ohio counties have more registered voters than residents.
Federal records showed 160 counties in 19 states have over 100 percent voter registration.
The Florida New Majority Education Fund, Democratic Party of Florida and the National Council of La Raza are currently under investigation for alleged voter registration fraud.
True The Vote is Chuck Norris approved.

How popular is Voter ID?

74 percent of Americans support, according to The Washington Post.
71 percent of Latinos support it, according to the PEW Research Center.


http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures
 

Revmitchell

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A voting watchdog group says that election data revealing nearly 500 instances of alleged voter fraud in North Carolina dispels claims that voter fraud the state is “insignificant.”

This week, the Voter Integrity Project of North Carolina released a North Carolina Board of Elections document showing that from 2008-2012 there have been 475 cases of alleged voter fraud in the state referred to district attorneys’ offices.

The type of fraud included in the tally includes double voting, impersonation, vote buying or selling, ineligible voting, voter registration issues and absentee voting issues.

“The State Board of Elections, to the greatest extent permitted by resources, investigates all allegations of voter fraud,” the board of elections document reads.

“Most allegations prove to be unfounded, lack criminal intent, or cannot be substantiated; however, in those cases where there is reasonable suspicion of voter fraud, the matter is turned over to the appropriate district attorney’s office,” the document added.

The Board of Elections notes that the majority of the incidents occurred in the 2008 general election and the Voter Integrity Project adds that the complete tally of fraud from the 2012 elections have not been reported in full yet.

According to the Voter Integrity Project, the numbers reveal that fraud is an issue in elections and one that should be prosecuted more often.

“It is undeniable that voter fraud is a problem in North Carolina and really across the country,” Jay DeLancy, executive director of Voter Integrity Project of NC, told The Daily Caller. “That is undeniable, No. 1. No. 2, their prosecutions are few and far between and we blame that on the elected district attorneys across the state who, for whatever reason, see no value in prosecuting these cases. And we want them to prosecute.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/06/r...ter-fraud-in-nc-from-2008-2012/#ixzz2jjXJQomu
 

Revmitchell

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A Milwaukee man pleaded guilty Monday to illegally voting five times last year in West Milwaukee, when in fact he did not have residency there.

Leonard K. Brown, 56, still faces a charge of voting twice in the November presidential election and making a false statement to an election official on election day. Those cases have been rescheduled for trial in January. His sentencing on the five convictions resulting from Monday's pleas will be scheduled sometime after that trial.

Brown was among 10 people charged in March with a variety of charges related to voter fraud. He is charged with voting twice in the Nov. 6 election — in person in Milwaukee on that date and by absentee ballot in West Milwaukee four days earlier.

Read more from Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/...raud-b99119682z1-227686051.html#ixzz2jjXiZiOQ
Follow us: @NewsHub on Twitter
 

Zaac

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How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures

Here are the facts:

To date, 46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain on the rolls nation-wide.
There are over 1.8 million dead voters still eligible on the rolls across the country.
More than 2.75 million Americans are registered to vote in more than one state.
True The Vote recently found 99 cases of potential felony interstate voter fraud.
Maryland affiliates of True The Vote uncovered cases of people registering and voting after their respective deaths.
This year, True The Vote uncovered more than 348,000 dead people on the rolls in 27 states.
California: 49,000
Florida: 30,000
Texas: 28,500
Michigan: 25,000
Illinois: 24,000
12 Indiana counties have more registered voters than residents.
The Ohio Secretary of State admitted that multiple Ohio counties have more registered voters than residents.
Federal records showed 160 counties in 19 states have over 100 percent voter registration.
The Florida New Majority Education Fund, Democratic Party of Florida and the National Council of La Raza are currently under investigation for alleged voter registration fraud.
True The Vote is Chuck Norris approved.

How popular is Voter ID?

74 percent of Americans support, according to The Washington Post.
71 percent of Latinos support it, according to the PEW Research Center.


http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures

Frankly that doesn't prove much of anything other than the voter registration system methodology for purging folks from the rolls is as bad as the system used in the church. :laugh:
 

Zaac

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A voting watchdog group says that election data revealing nearly 500 instances of alleged voter fraud in North Carolina dispels claims that voter fraud the state is “insignificant.”

This week, the Voter Integrity Project of North Carolina released a North Carolina Board of Elections document showing that from 2008-2012 there have been 475 cases of alleged voter fraud in the state referred to district attorneys’ offices.

The type of fraud included in the tally includes double voting, impersonation, vote buying or selling, ineligible voting, voter registration issues and absentee voting issues.

“The State Board of Elections, to the greatest extent permitted by resources, investigates all allegations of voter fraud,” the board of elections document reads.

“Most allegations prove to be unfounded, lack criminal intent, or cannot be substantiated; however, in those cases where there is reasonable suspicion of voter fraud, the matter is turned over to the appropriate district attorney’s office,” the document added.

The Board of Elections notes that the majority of the incidents occurred in the 2008 general election and the Voter Integrity Project adds that the complete tally of fraud from the 2012 elections have not been reported in full yet.

According to the Voter Integrity Project, the numbers reveal that fraud is an issue in elections and one that should be prosecuted more often.

“It is undeniable that voter fraud is a problem in North Carolina and really across the country,” Jay DeLancy, executive director of Voter Integrity Project of NC, told The Daily Caller. “That is undeniable, No. 1. No. 2, their prosecutions are few and far between and we blame that on the elected district attorneys across the state who, for whatever reason, see no value in prosecuting these cases. And we want them to prosecute.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/06/r...ter-fraud-in-nc-from-2008-2012/#ixzz2jjXJQomu

Again,this sounds like nothing more than a partisan rant to justify disenfranchising voters. If the vote was such a big deal for these groups, they wouldn't be disenfranchising so many over a few anomalies over the space of four years.

Was there a VIP report from 2000 or 2004?
 

Zaac

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A Milwaukee man pleaded guilty Monday to illegally voting five times last year in West Milwaukee, when in fact he did not have residency there.

Leonard K. Brown, 56, still faces a charge of voting twice in the November presidential election and making a false statement to an election official on election day. Those cases have been rescheduled for trial in January. His sentencing on the five convictions resulting from Monday's pleas will be scheduled sometime after that trial.

Brown was among 10 people charged in March with a variety of charges related to voter fraud. He is charged with voting twice in the Nov. 6 election — in person in Milwaukee on that date and by absentee ballot in West Milwaukee four days earlier.

Read more from Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/...raud-b99119682z1-227686051.html#ixzz2jjXiZiOQ
Follow us: @NewsHub on Twitter

Now this I would venture happens quite often when folks vote absentee and then change their minds or plans and are able to vote in person without contacting the county clerk.
 

Crabtownboy

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How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures

Here are the facts:

To date, 46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain on the rolls nation-wide.
There are over 1.8 million dead voters still eligible on the rolls across the country.
More than 2.75 million Americans are registered to vote in more than one state.
True The Vote recently found 99 cases of potential felony interstate voter fraud.
Maryland affiliates of True The Vote uncovered cases of people registering and voting after their respective deaths.
This year, True The Vote uncovered more than 348,000 dead people on the rolls in 27 states.
California: 49,000
Florida: 30,000
Texas: 28,500
Michigan: 25,000
Illinois: 24,000
12 Indiana counties have more registered voters than residents.
The Ohio Secretary of State admitted that multiple Ohio counties have more registered voters than residents.
Federal records showed 160 counties in 19 states have over 100 percent voter registration.
The Florida New Majority Education Fund, Democratic Party of Florida and the National Council of La Raza are currently under investigation for alleged voter registration fraud.
True The Vote is Chuck Norris approved.

How popular is Voter ID?

74 percent of Americans support, according to The Washington Post.
71 percent of Latinos support it, according to the PEW Research Center.


http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures

Thanks, you have proven my point that there is no significant voter fraud in the US.

The totals of the states you list is 156,000

In the 2012 presidential election there were 124,026,000 votes cast.
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/common/pop_vote.html

This shows a voter fraud of 0.001257800 ... far less than 1%.

Again thanks for proving my point. Your reply also lends credibility to the widespread belief that such voter ID laws have nothing to do with voter fraud, but are attempts to "gerrymander" entire states.

Thanks so much for your reply.
 

Zaac

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Thanks, you have proven my point that there is no significant voter fraud in the US.

The totals of the states you list is 156,000

In the 2012 presidential election there were 124,026,000 votes cast.
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/common/pop_vote.html

This shows a voter fraud of 0.001257800 ... far less than 1%.

Again thanks for proving my point. Your reply also lends credibility to the widespread belief that such voter ID laws have nothing to do with voter fraud, but are attempts to "gerrymander" entire states.

Thanks so much for your reply.

:applause: Definitely speaks to the ulterior motives of this law.
 

Crabtownboy

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And you refuse to even look at the IRS voter fraud. Being purposefully ignorant is a poor debate tactic.

How was targeting political groups for taxation voter fraud?

Be honest, why are you for voter ID cards. It isn't because of voter fraud. That has been proven to almost not exist in the US. So what is your real reason?

 

Jerome

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http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/11/04/5305718/former-house-speaker-jim-wright.html

Former U.S. House Speaker Jim Wright will be able to vote in Tuesday’s elections.

The 90-year-old, who was unable to get a voter ID card Saturday at a local Department of Public Safety office because he didn’t have the proper paperwork with him, went back Monday and tried again.

The legendary Texas political figure was able to get a state-issued personal identification card because his assistant dug through boxes of records at his office until she found a certified copy of his birth certificate, which was one of the pieces of ID needed.

“I never anticipated anything quite so elaborate with the requirements,” Wright said Monday afternoon. “I do believe I have qualified myself to vote.

“And I am indeed going to vote.”
 
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