Texas' Restrictive Voter ID Law Stops A Former U.S. House Speaker From Getting A Vote

[Crabtownboy]

Interesting though, that you believe he's entitled to special treatment because he's a politician.

I do not believe he or anyone else should receive special treatment. I simply think it is the height of stupidity to refuse any 90 year old a voter ID card simply because their drivers license has expired. I also think it is stupid to refuse a person because their middle name is on one photo record and not on another.

Attorney General Greg Abbott (R), voter ID’s most strident defender, was also flagged as a suspicious voter under his own law’s strict criteria.
Abbott was flagged because his license lists his name as “Gregory Wayne Abbott” while his voter registration record simply calls him “Greg Abbott.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11/01/2875901/texas-voter-abbott-affidavit/

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Your own words betray you.

To deny a former House Speaker because of an expired driver's license is nonsense and a faculty identification card.

Bothsidesofthemouthitis. The only cure is honesty.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Your own words betray you.



Bothsidesofthemouthitis. The only cure is honesty.

Yes CDM, to deny him or any 90 year old for because their drivers license is expired is stupid. How does an expired drivers license change the person?

I guess you didn't notice in another post I said:

I do not believe he or anyone else should receive special treatment. I simply think it is the height of stupidity to refuse any 90 year old a voter ID card simply because their drivers license has expired. I also think it is stupid to refuse a person because their middle name is on one photo record and not on another.

 

[Zaac]

What are the requirements to vote an absentee ballot?

Interesting question. It would seem that there is some inconsistency.

Do I need to provide ID when I vote by absentee ballot in Texas?

You do not need to provide ID if you have already voted at least once in Texas. If you are a first time voter and you did not put your drivers license number or Social Security number on your voter registration form then you must include a copy of your ID with your absentee ballot application.

Acceptable forms of ID include: a state issued driver's license or state ID card that shows your name (a card issued by another state is fine, even if it's expired); any other photo ID that shows your name; a US passport, US birth certificate, or US citizenship papers; OR a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows your name and Texas address.
http://www.longdistancevoter.org/texas#.UngQOfmsh8E

Do absentee ballots not get counted the same in Texas or something? Because they only seem to be concerned about folks voting on election day having a current government issued photo id.

This kinda reminds me of the what the guy in NC said and did. They know that the law is designed to disparately keep Democrats and minorities who tend to not have these forms of id from voting other than provisionally.

If on its face there is prima facie evidence that it disparately impacts protected groups( race, gender,etc), and this one has been shown to do so, it's legally discriminatory.

And isn't it a bit odd to accept a concealed handgun license but no a student ID from any of the states public universities?:laugh: Students overwhelmingly vote Democrat vs gun owners voting Republican.

It's hilarious how partisan and discriminatory the bill is and folks know it, but continue to try and justify that it isn't. Shameful that folks are this partisan.

 

[InTheLight]

Are you trying to tell me a 90-year-old man doesn't have any of those forms of ID? B/S!!

My mother is 92 and does not have any of those documents.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

My mother is 92 and does not have any of those documents.

That she doesn't is no indication she can't get them. Same with the ex-legislator from Texas. Perhaps it would have been clearer had I stated it thusly.

 

[InTheLight]

That she doesn't is no indication she can't get them. Same with the ex-legislator from Texas. Perhaps it would have been clearer had I stated it thusly.

My saintly mother no longer attends church because of arthritis. Yet she's supposed to go wait in line at the DMV or elsewhere to "prove" she lives in the same house, same voting district she's been in for the past 58 years? Not going to happen.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

My saintly mother no longer attends church because of arthritis. Yet she's supposed to go wait in line at the DMV or elsewhere to "prove" she lives in the same house, same voting district she's been in for the past 58 years? Not going to happen.

This references back to your original question regarding absentee ballot requirements. Her signature will be compared to the one on file. Even if made shaky with age, it will still be similar enough, I would guess, to pass muster.

 

[Revmitchell]

If someones elderly mother can wait in line to vote she can wait in line to get a legitimate ID.

 

[InTheLight]

This references back to your original question regarding absentee ballot requirements. Her signature will be compared to the one on file. Even if made shaky with age, it will still be similar enough, I would guess, to pass muster.

She did vote via absentee balloting last election. We don't have voter ID in Minnesota. In any event, voter photo ID laws would not have any effect on voter fraud via absentee ballots, correct? So if someone wanted to game the system they would simply turn to absentee balloting.

 

[InTheLight]

If someones elderly mother can wait in line to vote she can wait in line to get a legitimate ID.

She can't wait in line to vote which is why she went to absentee voting last election. However, photo voter ID laws can't prevent voter fraud by absentee ballots.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yes CDM, to deny him or any 90 year old for because their drivers license is expired is stupid.

Especially if they're an ex-congressman.

You said it. Stop trying to say you didn't. Doesn't matter what you said on other posts. I used your own words. Your words give us the impression congresspeople deserve better than us.


Back to the O/P. I like it when the same rules apply to them as do us. I have to show a current ID to vote. So should everybody.

 

[Revmitchell]

Your words give us the impression congresspeople deserve better than us.

Especially if it is a Democrat.

 

[Zaac]

If someones elderly mother can wait in line to vote she can wait in line to get a legitimate ID.

Legitimate according to whom? Why should she have to if what she has used for years to vote has suddenly been changed because folks are playing partisan politics? Are student ids not legitimate? And if all that other stuff can be used for absentee ballots, what's the REAL purpose here?

 

[Zaac]

She can't wait in line to vote which is why she went to absentee voting last election. However, photo voter ID laws can't prevent voter fraud by absentee ballots.

Precisely. So again, what are they REALLY trying to do in Texas with this law?

If more Republicans show up to vote on election day because they've got the requisite ID, exit polling will show them winning and probably discourage other Dems from even bothering to vote.

The intent, whether or not the GOP in Texas wants to admit it, is to discourage and disenfranchise Democrat voters. The law is discriminatory on its face.

 

[Zaac]

Especially if they're an ex-congressman.

You said it. Stop trying to say you didn't. Doesn't matter what you said on other posts. I used your own words. Your words give us the impression congresspeople deserve better than us.


Back to the O/P. I like it when the same rules apply to them as do us. I have to show a current ID to vote. So should everybody.

Do folks with concealed handgun licenses deserve better than students?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

:laugh:

Nice try, but you are hardly worth any of my time. Take your prejudice somewhere else.

 

[Zaac]

:laugh:

Nice try, but you are hardly worth any of my time. Take your prejudice somewhere else.

Aww. Hypocritical , prejudiced "conservatives" the only ones invited to this party?:tear:

 

[Don]

Precisely. So again, what are they REALLY trying to do in Texas with this law?

If more Republicans show up to vote on election day because they've got the requisite ID, exit polling will show them winning and probably discourage other Dems from even bothering to vote.

The intent, whether or not the GOP in Texas wants to admit it, is to discourage and disenfranchise Democrat voters. The law is discriminatory on its face.

"Discriminatory"? Discriminating against who? Democrats?

Seems to me, *any* 90-year-old with an expired driver's license is going to be denied the opportunity, regardless of their race, sexual orientation, etc. So where's the discrimination?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Legitimate according to whom? Why should she have to if what she has used for years to vote has suddenly been changed because folks are playing partisan politics? Are student ids not legitimate? And if all that other stuff can be used for absentee ballots, what's the REAL purpose here?

We might ask you the same question regarding this post.