tragic_pizza
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Again, true Christianity is founded upon faith in Jesus Christ.Eliyahu said:
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The $100,000 Roman Catholic Question.
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tragic_pizza said:Again, true Christianity is founded upon faith in Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is the Word of God, and the Scripture is the Word of God.
The True Christianity is not founded upon the heresy from the Apocrypha and human traditions, which is the case with Roman Catholic.
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I would contend that all religion, including your own, includes human traditions. Interpreting Scripture is a human act, and acting upon that interpretation in a church setting builds tradition.Eliyahu said:Jesus Christ is the Word of God, and the Scripture is the Word of God.
The True Christianity is not founded upon the heresy from the Apocrypha and human traditions, which is the case with Roman Catholic.
tragic_pizza said:I would contend that all religion, including your own, includes human traditions. Interpreting Scripture is a human act, and acting upon that interpretation in a church setting builds tradition.
You don't understand how much each denomination of Protestant groups try to remove such if they found any human traditions, though there are hard-headed people even among the Protestant group.
Moreover, the seriousness of such human tradition of Roman Catholic is far, far ( thousand, thousand times) more than any of Protestants'. The main problem is that you don't distinguish such serious ones from the minor tradition which is according to the Bible.
Which tradition have you found among /Protestant groups? If any tradition which is contradictory to Bible teaching is found in any protestant group, they much be changed, otherwise they must be condemned.
Could you compare any of them with Purgatory, Compulsory Celibacy, Papacy, Infant Baptism, Idol for Mary, Idol for Joseph, Prayer to the dead, Prayer for the dead, Confession to the Priest, Indulgence Business, Lent, Assumption ( Ascension of Mary), etc?
Roman Catholic is a big, big shopping mall of all the paganism, heresies, idolatry, and goddess worship, idol worshipping priesthood (Chemarim). You can buy any paganism there !
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What are you gonna fill your life with once no one will argue Catholicism with you?
Then I must preach the gospel to teh lost souls of Roman Catholic, so that they may be released from the Whore of Babylon.tragic_pizza said:What are you gonna fill your life with once no one will argue Catholicism with you?
You couldn't show me any Human Tradition among Protestants, comparable to Roman Catholic Traditions.
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The Sinner's Prayer is one example.
DHK said:You actually have no Biblical basis for your belief. But quite frankly I am tired of every thread that you enter being derailed into a Sabbath-day thread. So why not direct your attention to the OP instead of the Sabbath.
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You must have been very tired!
In this post, what does it say about the Sabbath? Is the Sabbath question haunting you so much it plagues you just while hearing the word "the Word"?
I in this post argued against the basic difference between the true and the false Church : between RCatholicism and Protestantism. The Bible is that basic difference; you capitulate me for harping on the Sabbath? You just see GE and the Sabbath gnaws on you; it must be a thorn in your flesh, DHK.
Eliyahu said:You don't understand how much each denomination of Protestant groups try to remove such if they found any human traditions, though there are hard-headed people even among the Protestant group.
Moreover, the seriousness of such human tradition of Roman Catholic is far, far ( thousand, thousand times) more than any of Protestants'. The main problem is that you don't distinguish such serious ones from the minor tradition which is according to the Bible.
Which tradition have you found among /Protestant groups? If any tradition which is contradictory to Bible teaching is found in any protestant group, they much be changed, otherwise they must be condemned.
Could you compare any of them with Purgatory, Compulsory Celibacy, Papacy, Infant Baptism, Idol for Mary, Idol for Joseph, Prayer to the dead, Prayer for the dead, Confession to the Priest, Indulgence Business, Lent, Assumption ( Ascension of Mary), etc?
Roman Catholic is a big, big shopping mall of all the paganism, heresies, idolatry, and goddess worship, idol worshipping priesthood (Chemarim). You can buy any paganism there !
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Eliyahoo, it is true! Don't fear, brother, stand fast in Christ! You are breave, indeed.
What is Sinner's Prayer? Who performs that? What is wrong with it from the view of Bible?tragic_pizza said:The Sinner's Prayer is one example.
We must distinguish what is tolerable and what is not permissible.
tragic_pizza said:What are you gonna fill your life with once no one will argue Catholicism with you?
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Protestantism!
Undaunted!
I advise you to stay on the topic of this thread; that which was quoted in the OP, or I will start deleting your posts GE.Gerhard Ebersoehn said:GE:
You must have been very tired!
In this post, what does it say about the Sabbath? Is the Sabbath question haunting you so much it plagues you just while hearing the word "the Word"?
I in this post argued against the basic difference between the true and the false Church : between RCatholicism and Protestantism. The Bible is that basic difference; you capitulate me for harping on the Sabbath? You just see GE and the Sabbath gnaws on you; it must be a thorn in your flesh, DHK.
I stayed on the topic of YOUR post. But I shall try to abide, dear DHK. Thanks for having tolerating my hot headedness so far.
The challenge put forth to you, was what "tradition" does a Baptist hold that is not Biblical. Praying to ask the Lord iin your heart and save you is indeed Biblical. And it is not a tradition. There is no "sinner's prayer" in our church. It is not a tradition. Can you find a copy of "The sinner's prayer." I would like to read it. I have never seen it. So I really don't know what you are talking about it, and I have been a Baptist for over 30 years!tragic_pizza said:The Sinner's Prayer is one example.
Extra-biblical doctrine of the RCC that is non-essential to salvation is the topic. Reread the OP. The Sabbath has nothing to do with this topic. So drop it. Final warning.Gerhard Ebersoehn said:I stayed on the topic of YOUR post. But I shall try to abide, dear DHK. Thanks for having tolerating my hot headedness so far.
off-topic postDHK said:Extra-biblical doctrine of the RCC that is non-essential to salvation is the topic. Reread the OP. The Sabbath has nothing to do with this topic. So drop it. Final warning.
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You don't, why should I?Eliyahu said:What is Sinner's Prayer? Who performs that? What is wrong with it from the view of Bible?
We must distinguish what is tolerable and what is not permissible.
If you don't you are not answering the challenge set forth in the OP, and your assertion is frivilous to say the least.tragic_pizza said:You don't, why should I?
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Eliyahu said:... You couldn't show me any Human Tradition among Protestants, comparable to Roman Catholic Traditions.
I think that one of the earliest Baptist traditions centered on whether Christ died for all, or just for the elect. Out of this question rose the General and the Particular Baptists.
It could, perhaps, be seen as comparable to Catholic traditions - in that - today, many Baptists don't even ask the question. They just assume the position of whatever local church they belong to, or - if they do ponder it - the answer can become, "I don't know and it doesn't matter because it is not essential to the faith." However, at the outset of the Baptist church in the 1600's it was an essential enough question to spur the formation, within little more than one generation, of two branches of the Baptist faith - each believing they were right.
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CarpentersApprentice said:I think that one of the earliest Baptist traditions centered on whether Christ died for all, or just for the elect. Out of this question rose the General and the Particular Baptists.
It could, perhaps, be seen as comparable to Catholic traditions - in that - today, many Baptists don't even ask the question. They just assume the position of whatever local church they belong to, or - if they do ponder it - the answer can become, "I don't know and it doesn't matter because it is not essential to the faith." However, at the outset of the Baptist church in the 1600's it was an essential enough question to spur the formation, within little more than one generation, of two branches of the Baptist faith - each believing they were right.
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Even such argument is not uniformly accepted or declined by any specific groups. Such tradition like gathering 11:00 am on Sunday is not compulsory even though it is established at so many churches.
I don't care very much about whether Jesus died for all or for only believers, but I know 1 John 2:2 says He died not only for us, but also for the world. This type of interpretation or the Great Tribulation after Rapture or before Rapture, those are rather a matter of Bible interpretation.
However, in case of Roman Catholics, they have so many theoretic human traditions like Threefold hat for the Pope, Ankh Cross, Purgatory, Maria's Ascension, Indulgence, Extreme Unction ( anointing at the deathbed), confession to the Priest ( while there is no priest system in NT), Hierchy system of Clergy, Black gowns for the priests which were worn by Idol worshipping priests ( Chemarim in Zephania 1: 4), Lent ( common practice in Babylonian goddess worship), compulsory celibacy, nuns, etc.
What are the human tradition in Protestants comparable to the above mentioned RC traditions?
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