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The Absolute Equality of Jesus and The Father

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Nov 18, 2020.

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    Both yes and no. The Word was always Yahweh and not. Not in being with Yahweh. They are the One Yahweh not two.
     
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    Then you effectively deny God is immutable. Then God would have to change in order for there to be any creation or the incarnation. Unless there was never any first creation becaue God was always creating. Never changed from not being the Creator to be a Creator. Then the real Deity of the Son would not be needed either. The Son to creation being more like Moses, Exodus 7:1, to Pharaoh.
     
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    so you are a Unitarian! I have not heard of a person who says they are "Baptist", and denies the Biblical Teaching of the Holy Trinity! You are saying that The Father and Jesus Christ are one and the same Person. This is RANK HERESY!
     
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    Do not be so stupid. Unitarians do not believe in the Deity of the Son. Are you a Tritheist? I hold to being a Trinitarian. That the three Persons, God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are the One Yahweh, not three Yahwehs. Yahweh being the one true God.
     
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    Yes, as the older reference works used divine.deity to mean the same thing, so would see him as much God as the Father and Jesus also are!
     
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    That view would be Oneness doctrine
     
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    The word was fully Yahweh, same as the Father is Yahweh!
     
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    Yes, fully Yahweh and also a person other than Yahweh too. John 1:1-3. John 1:2.
     
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    NOT a person other then Yahweh, as is Yahweh, but different then being the father
     
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    Ah, no. "with the Cod" cannot be Yahweh. Because only Yahweh is God alone. Isaiah 44:6, ". . . beside me there is no God."
     
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    Six Hour Warning
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