the age of the earth

[quantumfaith]

However, the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, strongly condemns deviant sexual behavior including fornication and adultery so there is really no room for discussion. Similarly the Bible condemns atheism and there is no reason to have an atheist posting on this Baptist Board. Is there?

So you are not referring to me in this?

 

[Marooncat79]

However, the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, strongly condemns deviant sexual behavior including fornication and adultery so there is really no room for discussion. Similarly the Bible condemns atheism and there is no reason to have an atheist posting on this Baptist Board. Is there?

So you are not referring to me in this?

If you are referring to me, I did not make that statement!! Please go back and read if you think that I said that in the original post!!

You really need to read that in context as well. I do not see your name even remotely associated with that comment

 

[quantumfaith]

If you are referring to me, I did not make that statement!! Please go back and read if you think that I said that in the original post!!

You really need to read that in context as well. I do not see your name even remotely associated with that comment

OK, now I see you were repeating a quote from OR. It was in your text so I presumed it was your statement. My apologies. You (general) may call me any number of things but "atheist ain't one of them".

 

[OldRegular]

Why would you respond with such...."keep patting yourself on the back"

Do I misread your congeniality?

QF

We apparently are not communicating very well. You were extolling the virtues of mathematics above science and engineering, patting yourself on the back so to speak. Do that long enough and you will develop arm and shoulder problems.

 

[OldRegular]

However, the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, strongly condemns deviant sexual behavior including fornication and adultery so there is really no room for discussion. Similarly the Bible condemns atheism and there is no reason to have an atheist posting on this Baptist Board. Is there?

Your point is well stated and made, but I think that the church should be willing to address these issues upfront. I am not meaning to bash the board for their stance here--just wondering why it is not allowed at all.

We should all be in agreement here I would think

You are not using the quote feature properly. We are not in agreement at all. I believe I made myself quite clear but I will repeat:

However, the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, strongly condemns deviant sexual behavior including fornication and adultery so there is really no room for discussion. Similarly the Bible condemns atheism and there is no reason to have an atheist posting on this Baptist Board. Is there?

 

[OldRegular]

However, the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, strongly condemns deviant sexual behavior including fornication and adultery so there is really no room for discussion. Similarly the Bible condemns atheism and there is no reason to have an atheist posting on this Baptist Board. Is there?

So you are not referring to me in this?

I thought I was defending you QF!

 

[quantumfaith]

QF

We apparently are not communicating very well. You were extolling the virtues of mathematics above science and engineering, patting yourself on the back so to speak. Do that long enough and you will develop arm and shoulder problems.

Have already had rotator cuff surgery....not an easy one to recoup from.

 

[quantumfaith]

I thought I was defending you QF!

It was a "misread" on my part. I saw the quote in a statement by MC (in his response text) and read it as his comment. He corrected me.

There are many things I can be called...but that is not one of them.

No worries.

 

[OldRegular]

It was a "misread" on my part. I saw the quote in a statement by MC (in his response text) and read it as his comment. He corrected me.

There are many things I can be called...but that is not one of them.

No worries.

Just one more reason people should use the quote feature correctly!

 

[quantumfaith]

http://thenaturalhistorian.com/2015/01/05/creationism-reformed-church-reflections-on-ets-2014/

 

[quantumfaith]

http://thenaturalhistorian.com/2015/01/05/creationism-reformed-church-reflections-on-ets-2014/

Oddly enough, it appears I am aligning with many theologians of a reformed nature. Go figure.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

Approximately 4.5 billion years.....4,500,000,000

So do you think man has been around for 4.5 billion years?

Jesus said he created man and female at the beginning... Doesn't really line up with the model we are given in evolution.

This thread stinks of unbelief and a worship of science falsely called so.

if whatever science is being taught does not match up with the bible, then it is wrong, plain and simple.

Who are you going to believe? God? or "science"

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

Apparently Moses, during his years as an Egyptian prince, did not learn much from the Egyptians or the Aliens coming down and building all them pyramids!

Exodus 29:9-11
9. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Isn't it obvious that "yom" (day) here means a long period of time, don't you know that to the Jews 6 days is 6 billions years and that they are observe the sabbath "day" for a billion years... I am being sarcastic of course to show the inconsistency of trying to apply long periods of time to "yom" to creation but then not applying it the same to other passages.

 

[Baptist4life]

So do you think man has been around for 4.5 billion years?

Jesus said he created man and female at the beginning... Doesn't really line up with the model we are given in evolution.

This thread stinks of unbelief and a worship of science falsely called so.

if whatever science is being taught does not match up with the bible, then it is wrong, plain and simple.

Who are you going to believe? God? or "science"

^^^^ Gotta "AMEN" that!

 

[quantumfaith]

So do you think man has been around for 4.5 billion years?

Jesus said he created man and female at the beginning... Doesn't really line up with the model we are given in evolution.

This thread stinks of unbelief and a worship of science falsely called so.

if whatever science is being taught does not match up with the bible, then it is wrong, plain and simple.

Who are you going to believe? God? or "science"

No, 4.5 billion years is the approximate age of the earth, that would be from it early original chaotic state. Humans (homo sapiens) have been around for only a small fraction of that time scale. Approximately 100,000 years for hominids.

Your sound off about male and female from the beginning has nothing to do with the age of the earth or even the age of humanity for that matter. This thread does not stink of unbelief.....and you SIR may quit trying to infer that I or anyone else is an unbeliever. I believe in and worship the Creator of this universe. I DO NOT worship or place science out of its role as the natural revelation of its maker.

Yes I agree, the natural revelation and the truths imparted from scripture should be in agreement.

 

[quantumfaith]

Isn't it obvious that "yom" (day) here means a long period of time, don't you know that to the Jews 6 days is 6 billions years and that they are observe the sabbath "day" for a billion years... I am being sarcastic of course to show the inconsistency of trying to apply long periods of time to "yom" to creation but then not applying it the same to other passages.

Sarcasm rarely escapes me neither does it do much to phase me. I can be skilled at returning it though.

 

[percho]

I would love to see 3-6 replies or more.

Is the context of John 11:9,10 more relative to time, as described in A. Genesis 1:14-18 OR B. to Genesis 1:2-5?

Of course my answer as you all know is B.

Now if the answer is truly, as in the truth of the word of God, B then one must ask himself why was Darkness on the face of the deep, on the earth, before the Light came to the earth?

How long had the Darkness been on the earth? Is God in reality about to deal with, the Darkness as the adversary to The Light and is He going to do this by renewing the face of the earth and creating man in his image?

Earth being also a very key word in this discussion.