that is quite correct, as have come in from charasmatic circles, to Evangelical arminian, to 4 point cal, now 5 point in regards to the DoG, but in other regards Baptist, not reformed, much as Dr McArthur is!
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The calvinist system tries to reconcile things that cannot be reconciled in this worl
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that is quite correct, as have come in from charasmatic circles, to Evangelical arminian, to 4 point cal, now 5 point in regards to the DoG, but in other regards Baptist, not reformed, much as Dr McArthur is!
I do not live under any man made organized system. If you want to know about a specific doctrine then I can be clear. I study the bible and each individual doctrine without being beholden to systems.
How do you see Sotierology?
3What efefct did the Fall have upon us, are we in Original sin?
I am not a Calvinist nor am I Arminian....rather I am a born again Christian who happens to agree with Sovereign Grace Theology & Baptist. I come closest to a Old School Baptist than anything else. Yet most of the non-Calvinists label me a Calvinist. My Calvinistic Brethren understand this & acknowledge my theological stance & respect it. It's just the camp who probably would best be described as "Synergists" who cant see past that. Therefore, if you accuse the Calvinists of not understanding different varied theological positions, then you must look to yourselves as well.
And personally I dont give a wit what Piper, McArthur or Moeller say. They are modern day pastors & very much into marketing themselves & sometimes (my opinion now) they say stupid things.
I have not labeled you anything. You chose to respond to this thread and I responded to your posts.
I do not make use of phrases like original sin. What I do know because scripture is clear on this is that we are all sinners. We have all sinned and rebelled against God. There is no one who is not a sinner. We all need the atoning work of Jesus on the cross. That is a fact. But I deny that scripture makes it any more clear than that. And I am good with not knowing any more than that.
The thing is though that ALL of us have "man made systems", rather we like to explain it that way or not!
There is nothing new under the Sun, so you and I would HAVE to find ourselves aligned into a known theological system...
lets try again...
What would yo see yourself as being CLOSEST to in holding ?
Neither, I reject them and the idea that I have to fall into one of your personal categories. Saying there is nothing new under the sun is not a compelling argument that I must.
the very act of getting alabel yitself not a bad/wrong thing, just helpful in knowing where others stand, for if you say "reformed baptist", that tells me a lot, as would "historical arminian!"
Not a bad thing, just way to know the standing/starting positions of others!
And here in lies the problem. Any labels given to not help in knowing where I stand. I do not follow systems. I reject them.
IF you hold to any statement of beliefs, then you have to a degree a system of theology abiding by!
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So you do or you dont believe in the Doctrines of Grace?
I thought you were being genuine. Guess not.
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I reject the reformed definition of election. I reject the reformed view of limited grace.
But yet you tell people your a Calvinist? How is that?!?
No I have never told anyone that. You must have me mixed up with someone else.
& thats OK... now tell me what your Election & atonement are?
How do you define 'limited grace?"
he will not define it in theological terms, so must be "biblical" is the answer!