First thing Satan taught was ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED.
Genesis 3
3but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” 4The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die! 5“For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”.
The minute you sin your salvation is lost
Philippians 3
12Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. 13Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, 14I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; 16however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.
17Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us. 18For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, 19whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things
Paul tells us he presses forward for salvation and doesn't claim to have laid hold of it.
Because its obvious to PAUL as with anyone with common sense those who are saved are PERFECT. "Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect"
There is no sin in heaven.
He also weeps for those who walked the path but are now enemies of the cross whose end is destruction.
Suppose we switched the agreement that he weeps all the unbelievers in the world.
(those who never had it)
That would pose a even greater dilemma in that its OBVIOUS that doing GOOD WORKS --> walking the path helps them get on board with the correct faith.
So its as matter of pick your poison. Either Paul who weeping because the destruction that came over those "once saved" who are fallen from not following the pattern and pressing on the path set for them.
OR
Paul is weeping for those "who never had it it" Because the only way to GET IT is the PATH, PRESSING FOWARD and following the pattern that leads to PERFECTION.
If you challenge this. SIMPLY tell us why is Paul weeping?
Genesis 3
3but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” 4The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die! 5“For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”.
The minute you sin your salvation is lost
Philippians 3
12Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. 13Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, 14I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; 16however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.
17Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us. 18For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, 19whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things
Paul tells us he presses forward for salvation and doesn't claim to have laid hold of it.
Because its obvious to PAUL as with anyone with common sense those who are saved are PERFECT. "Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect"
There is no sin in heaven.
He also weeps for those who walked the path but are now enemies of the cross whose end is destruction.
Suppose we switched the agreement that he weeps all the unbelievers in the world.
(those who never had it)
That would pose a even greater dilemma in that its OBVIOUS that doing GOOD WORKS --> walking the path helps them get on board with the correct faith.
So its as matter of pick your poison. Either Paul who weeping because the destruction that came over those "once saved" who are fallen from not following the pattern and pressing on the path set for them.
OR
Paul is weeping for those "who never had it it" Because the only way to GET IT is the PATH, PRESSING FOWARD and following the pattern that leads to PERFECTION.
If you challenge this. SIMPLY tell us why is Paul weeping?
