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The Death of Muhammad Christians should know

Eliyahu

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Death of Muhammad Christians should know

Muhammad died of poisoning on June 8, 632AD

Muhammad conquered Kaybar, a Jewish town in the north of Medina around 628-9 and killed the thousands of Jews there.

Therefore read the followings:

Abu Dawud 4498

So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (pbuh) ate of it and the people also ate.

He then said: “Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned.” Then Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.

So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her):” What motivated you to do the work you have done?”

She said: “ If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you.”

The Apostle of Allah (pbuh) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.

He then said about the pain of which he died: “I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.”

“This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 4249

Narrated by Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a (cooked) sheep containing poison, was given as a present to Allah’s Apostle.

Sahih Al -Bukhari 2617

Narrated by Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, “Shall we kill her?” He said, “No” “ I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle” .

Sahih Muslim 5430

Anas reported that a Jewess came to Messenger of Allah with poisoned mutton and he took of what had been brought to him (Allah's Messenger). (When the effect of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: “I had determined to kill you.” Thereupon he said: “Allah will never give you the power to do it” They (the Companion's of the Holy Prophet) said:” Should we not kill her? “Thereupon he said: “No.” He (Anas) said: “I felt (the affects of this poison) on the uvula of Aitah's Messenger.”

Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 –

Umm Bishr [Bishe mother] said to the Prophet during the sickness of which he died: “What do you think about your illness, Apostle of Allah?” “ I do not think about the illness of my son except the poisoned sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaibar.” The Prophet said: “And I do not think about my illness except that, this is the time when it cut off my aorta.”

Sunan Abū ‘Abd, pp. 252-253 –

The Apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr Ibn al-Bara took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the Apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the Apostle of Allah said:” Hold back your hands! Because this foreleg has informed me that it is poisoned.” Thereupon Bishr said:” By Him Who hath made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from spitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food un-relishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth, I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong”. Bishr did not rise from his seat but his color changed to that of taylsan (a green cloth).

At-Tabari[5], p. 124

The Messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr b. al-Bara had come to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2588 –

Aisha said, "When the Prophet became sick and his condition became serious, he requested his wives to allow him to be treated in my house, and they allowed him. He came out leaning on two men while his feet were dragging on the ground."

Sahih Bukhari 4428

Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 1622 - Aishah said: "I never saw anyone suffer more pain than the Messenger of Allah."


Sahih Al-Bukhari 2797

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.”

This wish of Muhammad didn’t come true.

When the Jews sought to kill Jesus, according to the Qur'an Allah intervened and rescued Him. This is sura 4: 157-158 - Allah transported Jesus safely to Paradise and had someone else, whom Allah had made to look like Jesus, crucified in his place.

Any prayer by Muhammad didn’t work except his sex fantasies.

There are 57 Islamic countries in the world, but none of them enjoys the Democracy, Freedom, Peace, Prosperity together.

Muslims mean the followers of Muhammad.

If the prayer by Muhammad didn’t work, it seems that the Muslims prayer to Allah may not work.

The time span between the conquer of Khaibar and the death of Muhammad is really questionable.

Battle in Khaibar was 628/9 and the death of Muhammad was 632

Muhammad confessed Aisha and Umm Bishir that the extreme pain of death was like having his Aorta being cut

Surah 69: 44-46

And if he [i.e., Muḥammad] had made up about Us some [false] sayings,

We would have seized him by the right hand;1

Then We would have cut the aorta from him

Now Muhammad died of the extreme pain after eating the poisoned lamb chops

Allah never gave the warning about the poison to Muhammad in advance.

The Death of Muhammad proves Muhammad was a false prophet.

Now the question is how long Muhammad suffered such pain?

Was Muhammad tortured with such extreme pain for 3 years as anyone claim?

Muhammad conquered Khaibar in 629, thereafter conquered Mecca in 630, and many other cities during 630-632.

Then he delivered the final address on the mount Arafat in 632.

Quran 9:5 might have been written around this time.

Then there was a silence for several months until his death on Jun 8, 632

If Muhammad suffered from such extreme pain for 3 years, it means Allah tortured him for 3 years.

What a curse is that!?

Didn’t he pray for the pain for 3 years? Didn’t Allah heal him during the past 3 years?

Muslims may claim that he felt the pain in 629 and he was OK for 3 years, then the pain returned to him in 632AD after 3 years. But Muhammad himself confessed that the pain was due to what he ate in Kaybar.

I believe Muhammad approached Khaybar once again in the final days of his life for the purpose of sex with Zaynab as she was extremely pretty. Then he trusted her when she suggested the food and Muhammad chose the lamb meat and Zaynab put the poison mainly into the food for Muhammad.

Zaynab avenged her father, uncle, husband, 2 brothers of her own by killing him with the poison.

Allah didn’t appear for the prophecy after the Death of Muhammad because Allah was created by the imagination in the brain of Muhammad. Virtually Allah died when Muhammad died, I believe.

Dear Muslims,

Come out of Islam, the false religion



Eliyahu
 

AbM

New Member
Death of Muhammad Christians should know

Muhammad died of poisoning on June 8, 632AD

Muhammad conquered Kaybar, a Jewish town in the north of Medina around 628-9 and killed the thousands of Jews there.

Therefore read the followings:

Abu Dawud 4498

So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (pbuh) ate of it and the people also ate.

He then said: “Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned.” Then Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.

So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her):” What motivated you to do the work you have done?”

She said: “ If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you.”

The Apostle of Allah (pbuh) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.

He then said about the pain of which he died: “I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.”

“This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 4249

Narrated by Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a (cooked) sheep containing poison, was given as a present to Allah’s Apostle.

Sahih Al -Bukhari 2617

Narrated by Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, “Shall we kill her?” He said, “No” “ I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle” .

Sahih Muslim 5430

Anas reported that a Jewess came to Messenger of Allah with poisoned mutton and he took of what had been brought to him (Allah's Messenger). (When the effect of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: “I had determined to kill you.” Thereupon he said: “Allah will never give you the power to do it” They (the Companion's of the Holy Prophet) said:” Should we not kill her? “Thereupon he said: “No.” He (Anas) said: “I felt (the affects of this poison) on the uvula of Aitah's Messenger.”

Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 –

Umm Bishr [Bishe mother] said to the Prophet during the sickness of which he died: “What do you think about your illness, Apostle of Allah?” “ I do not think about the illness of my son except the poisoned sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaibar.” The Prophet said: “And I do not think about my illness except that, this is the time when it cut off my aorta.”

Sunan Abū ‘Abd, pp. 252-253 –

The Apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr Ibn al-Bara took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the Apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the Apostle of Allah said:” Hold back your hands! Because this foreleg has informed me that it is poisoned.” Thereupon Bishr said:” By Him Who hath made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from spitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food un-relishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth, I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong”. Bishr did not rise from his seat but his color changed to that of taylsan (a green cloth).

At-Tabari[5], p. 124

The Messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr b. al-Bara had come to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2588 –

Aisha said, "When the Prophet became sick and his condition became serious, he requested his wives to allow him to be treated in my house, and they allowed him. He came out leaning on two men while his feet were dragging on the ground."

Sahih Bukhari 4428

Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 1622 - Aishah said: "I never saw anyone suffer more pain than the Messenger of Allah."


Sahih Al-Bukhari 2797

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.”

This wish of Muhammad didn’t come true.

When the Jews sought to kill Jesus, according to the Qur'an Allah intervened and rescued Him. This is sura 4: 157-158 - Allah transported Jesus safely to Paradise and had someone else, whom Allah had made to look like Jesus, crucified in his place.

Any prayer by Muhammad didn’t work except his sex fantasies.

There are 57 Islamic countries in the world, but none of them enjoys the Democracy, Freedom, Peace, Prosperity together.

Muslims mean the followers of Muhammad.

If the prayer by Muhammad didn’t work, it seems that the Muslims prayer to Allah may not work.

The time span between the conquer of Khaibar and the death of Muhammad is really questionable.

Battle in Khaibar was 628/9 and the death of Muhammad was 632

Muhammad confessed Aisha and Umm Bishir that the extreme pain of death was like having his Aorta being cut

Surah 69: 44-46

And if he [i.e., Muḥammad] had made up about Us some [false] sayings,

We would have seized him by the right hand;1

Then We would have cut the aorta from him

Now Muhammad died of the extreme pain after eating the poisoned lamb chops

Allah never gave the warning about the poison to Muhammad in advance.

The Death of Muhammad proves Muhammad was a false prophet.

Now the question is how long Muhammad suffered such pain?

Was Muhammad tortured with such extreme pain for 3 years as anyone claim?

Muhammad conquered Khaibar in 629, thereafter conquered Mecca in 630, and many other cities during 630-632.

Then he delivered the final address on the mount Arafat in 632.

Quran 9:5 might have been written around this time.

Then there was a silence for several months until his death on Jun 8, 632

If Muhammad suffered from such extreme pain for 3 years, it means Allah tortured him for 3 years.

What a curse is that!?

Didn’t he pray for the pain for 3 years? Didn’t Allah heal him during the past 3 years?

Muslims may claim that he felt the pain in 629 and he was OK for 3 years, then the pain returned to him in 632AD after 3 years. But Muhammad himself confessed that the pain was due to what he ate in Kaybar.

I believe Muhammad approached Khaybar once again in the final days of his life for the purpose of sex with Zaynab as she was extremely pretty. Then he trusted her when she suggested the food and Muhammad chose the lamb meat and Zaynab put the poison mainly into the food for Muhammad.

Zaynab avenged her father, uncle, husband, 2 brothers of her own by killing him with the poison.

Allah didn’t appear for the prophecy after the Death of Muhammad because Allah was created by the imagination in the brain of Muhammad. Virtually Allah died when Muhammad died, I believe.

Dear Muslims,

Come out of Islam, the false religion



Eliyahu

Nicely exposed the truth!
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Death of Muhammad Christians should know

Muhammad died of poisoning on June 8, 632AD

Muhammad conquered Kaybar, a Jewish town in the north of Medina around 628-9 and killed the thousands of Jews there.

Therefore read the followings:

Abu Dawud 4498

So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (pbuh) ate of it and the people also ate.

He then said: “Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned.” Then Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.

So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her):” What motivated you to do the work you have done?”

She said: “ If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you.”

The Apostle of Allah (pbuh) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.

He then said about the pain of which he died: “I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.”

“This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 4249

Narrated by Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a (cooked) sheep containing poison, was given as a present to Allah’s Apostle.

Sahih Al -Bukhari 2617

Narrated by Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, “Shall we kill her?” He said, “No” “ I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle” .

Sahih Muslim 5430

Anas reported that a Jewess came to Messenger of Allah with poisoned mutton and he took of what had been brought to him (Allah's Messenger). (When the effect of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: “I had determined to kill you.” Thereupon he said: “Allah will never give you the power to do it” They (the Companion's of the Holy Prophet) said:” Should we not kill her? “Thereupon he said: “No.” He (Anas) said: “I felt (the affects of this poison) on the uvula of Aitah's Messenger.”

Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 –

Umm Bishr [Bishe mother] said to the Prophet during the sickness of which he died: “What do you think about your illness, Apostle of Allah?” “ I do not think about the illness of my son except the poisoned sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaibar.” The Prophet said: “And I do not think about my illness except that, this is the time when it cut off my aorta.”

Sunan Abū ‘Abd, pp. 252-253 –

The Apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr Ibn al-Bara took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the Apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the Apostle of Allah said:” Hold back your hands! Because this foreleg has informed me that it is poisoned.” Thereupon Bishr said:” By Him Who hath made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from spitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food un-relishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth, I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong”. Bishr did not rise from his seat but his color changed to that of taylsan (a green cloth).

At-Tabari[5], p. 124

The Messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr b. al-Bara had come to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2588 –

Aisha said, "When the Prophet became sick and his condition became serious, he requested his wives to allow him to be treated in my house, and they allowed him. He came out leaning on two men while his feet were dragging on the ground."

Sahih Bukhari 4428

Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 1622 - Aishah said: "I never saw anyone suffer more pain than the Messenger of Allah."


Sahih Al-Bukhari 2797

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.”

This wish of Muhammad didn’t come true.

When the Jews sought to kill Jesus, according to the Qur'an Allah intervened and rescued Him. This is sura 4: 157-158 - Allah transported Jesus safely to Paradise and had someone else, whom Allah had made to look like Jesus, crucified in his place.

Any prayer by Muhammad didn’t work except his sex fantasies.

There are 57 Islamic countries in the world, but none of them enjoys the Democracy, Freedom, Peace, Prosperity together.

Muslims mean the followers of Muhammad.

If the prayer by Muhammad didn’t work, it seems that the Muslims prayer to Allah may not work.

The time span between the conquer of Khaibar and the death of Muhammad is really questionable.

Battle in Khaibar was 628/9 and the death of Muhammad was 632

Muhammad confessed Aisha and Umm Bishir that the extreme pain of death was like having his Aorta being cut

Surah 69: 44-46

And if he [i.e., Muḥammad] had made up about Us some [false] sayings,

We would have seized him by the right hand;1

Then We would have cut the aorta from him

Now Muhammad died of the extreme pain after eating the poisoned lamb chops

Allah never gave the warning about the poison to Muhammad in advance.

The Death of Muhammad proves Muhammad was a false prophet.

Now the question is how long Muhammad suffered such pain?

Was Muhammad tortured with such extreme pain for 3 years as anyone claim?

Muhammad conquered Khaibar in 629, thereafter conquered Mecca in 630, and many other cities during 630-632.

Then he delivered the final address on the mount Arafat in 632.

Quran 9:5 might have been written around this time.

Then there was a silence for several months until his death on Jun 8, 632

If Muhammad suffered from such extreme pain for 3 years, it means Allah tortured him for 3 years.

What a curse is that!?

Didn’t he pray for the pain for 3 years? Didn’t Allah heal him during the past 3 years?

Muslims may claim that he felt the pain in 629 and he was OK for 3 years, then the pain returned to him in 632AD after 3 years. But Muhammad himself confessed that the pain was due to what he ate in Kaybar.

I believe Muhammad approached Khaybar once again in the final days of his life for the purpose of sex with Zaynab as she was extremely pretty. Then he trusted her when she suggested the food and Muhammad chose the lamb meat and Zaynab put the poison mainly into the food for Muhammad.

Zaynab avenged her father, uncle, husband, 2 brothers of her own by killing him with the poison.

Allah didn’t appear for the prophecy after the Death of Muhammad because Allah was created by the imagination in the brain of Muhammad. Virtually Allah died when Muhammad died, I believe.

Dear Muslims,

Come out of Islam, the false religion



Eliyahu
Did not Muhammed himself state that he was a false Prophet, then his aorta would be cut, so Yahweh obliged him it seems!
 

Eliyahu

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Did not Muhammed himself state that he was a false Prophet, then his aorta would be cut, so Yahweh obliged him it seems!

We must keep in mind that Muhammad was illiterate, he couldn't read Arabic, nor write Arabic, Quran 7:157-158 states that the Prophet was Unlettered and Islam scholars admit that it means Muhammad was Illiterate.
How could Muhammad write the Quran? He dictated Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh to write the Quran.
Sometimes Muhammad hesitated and murmured without knowing what to say further, then Abdullah suggested " Praise the Lord Allah " Then Muhammad said, you are excellent, that's good. Then Abdullah said in his heart " if this guy is a prophet, then I can be a prophet too"
In Quran ( Surah 69:44-46) Muhammad said clearly, the False Prophet would die with the extreme pain of having the Aorta cut off by Allah.
That might be the only prophecy which Muhammad prophesied correctly.
All of his children died in infancy or before the age of 20, except his daughter Fatima who was killed by another Muslims before the age of 30. Fatima had 2 sons, Hussein and Hasan. Barak Obama is Barak Hussein Obama.
As Muhammad was Illiterate, I am sure he couldn't read the Bible in Hebrew nor in Greek, nor in Arabic, but he commented on
the Christianity and claimed that Jesus wasn't killed on the Cross but another person was hung on the Cross.
Considering the success of Muhammad by massacring the Jews in Medina in 627-28, Jews shouldn't have accepted him and 150 of his people as the refugees in 622. After staying in Medina for 5 years as the refugees, Muhammad brought 3,000 army from neighboring towns and massacred the Jews in 627-8, which was the first success of Islam and killed 900 Jewish men and raping their wives and daughters,
History gives us the good lessons, which we must learn.
There are many, many teachings in the Bible that we should be sympathetic with the poor and with the refugees.
However, it doesn't mean that we should take them into our houses or into our towns or into our countries without examining their
beliefs, convictions, and orientations.
Quran 9:5
After the end of the Holy Month, you should kill the Kuffar ( Non-Muslims) wherever you meet, and/or wait them in ambush ( until the time comes)
Quran 5:33
If any Kuffar ( Non-Muslim) attack you ( including any criticism), amputate their hands or feet, or crucify them

There are many more cruel and brutal teachings in Quran and Hadith.
I expect Islam will collaborate with Roman Catholic in order to persecute the true Christians in the end-times


Eliyahu
 

Eliyahu

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Nicely exposed the truth!

From my experience, whenever I argued with Muslims, all the other issues were defended well by Muslims, except the death of Muhammad.
Surely, Allah never responded to Muhammad when he cried to Allah at the time of his death.
If Allah didn't notify Muhammad in advance about the poisoned food, was Muhammad deserted by Allah?
Or was Allah stupid as much as Muhammad was, without knowing the food contained the poison?
That is the big question.
I owe greatly to the Believers converted from Islam such as the following sites:


and David Wood


God Bless You and Your Family

Eliyahu
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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I see you mentioned Aisha from the Koran above. Wasn't she supposedly a 9 year old child that he married?

My recollection is that he was so "honorable" that he didn't consummate the marriage when she was 9, but rather waited until the ripe age of 11 or something?

When I went to public school we had an assignment in world history to draw something about Islam and were cautioned to not draw muhammed, or we could get death threats. So I drew 15 stick figure muhammeds with arrows labeling them clearly as him. I didn't go quite as far as Elijah's jokes about baal though haha.
 

AbM

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I expect Islam will collaborate with Roman Catholic in order to persecute the true Christians in the end-times

I heard that Islam was a made-up religion to diminish the increasing faith in Christ at that time. Any discussion on this?
 

JesusFan

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From my experience, whenever I argued with Muslims, all the other issues were defended well by Muslims, except the death of Muhammad.
Surely, Allah never responded to Muhammad when he cried to Allah at the time of his death.
If Allah didn't notify Muhammad in advance about the poisoned food, was Muhammad deserted by Allah?
Or was Allah stupid as much as Muhammad was, without knowing the food contained the poison?
That is the big question.
I owe greatly to the Believers converted from Islam such as the following sites:


and David Wood


God Bless You and Your Family

Eliyahu
Islam is being brought down by Lord Jesus now as never before, as we have shown by historical and textual evidences that Mecca was n t oldest city, as there was NO known record of it ever existing until 741 AD, Muhammed may not even had been a real historical person, and if he was, was centuries later made into Muhammed the Myth, and the Koran itself never ever had just a single original version, as there were many Arabic versions, and today have 37 Arabic ones, over 93000 differences between them!
 

JesusFan

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I heard that Islam was a made-up religion to diminish the increasing faith in Christ at that time. Any discussion on this?
Many now hold that Islam came originally from a proto Koran from northern region, in a Syriac Aramaic tongue, and that the writer of Koran brought that over and actually interjected into it Jewish apocrypha stories and JW like gnostic Christianity in the region!

Koran written as an Arabic Arian "bible" to confront and dispute Christian bible!
 

Eliyahu

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I see you mentioned Aisha from the Koran above. Wasn't she supposedly a 9 year old child that he married?

My recollection is that he was so "honorable" that he didn't consummate the marriage when she was 9, but rather waited until the ripe age of 11 or something?

When I went to public school we had an assignment in world history to draw something about Islam and were cautioned to not draw muhammed, or we could get death threats. So I drew 15 stick figure muhammeds with arrows labeling them clearly as him. I didn't go quite as far as Elijah's jokes about baal though haha.

Aisha was engaged to Muhammad at the age of 6-7 and married him at 9.
When she moved into Muhammad's house, she carried the toys and dolls with her, and therefore she was still a child at the age of 9.
Muhammad died on her laps when he had the extreme pain from the poison.
Aisha witnessed that she had never seen anyone with such extreme pain before.
I presume Aisha had seen Muslims had been killing many people brutally but none but Muhammad had experienced the extreme pain. I hope Muhammad will suffer much more pains in the Hell for evermore.

Aisha was the daughter of Abu Bakhr and therefore Abu got the information of his death very fast, earlier than any other.
Abu Bakhr could be prepared for the future after the death of Muhammad and became the first Caliph, with the help of Omar.
But Abu was killed after 2 years in 634 and Omar became the next Caliph. Also, Omar was assassinated after10 years.
Modern Day Abu Bakhr was the founder of ISIS in Iraq and Syria and declared the Islamic State, around 2011 during the time of Hussein Obama
After Omar, Uthman became the 3rd Caliph and expanded the Islam quite a lot but was killed by a Persian in 12 years.
Next Caliph was Ali, son in law of Muhammad, but was killed in 5 years by a Muslim.
Thereafter, the leadership of Islam get into chaos.
So, the history shows, there is No Peace for the wicked people.

Eliyahu
 
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Eliyahu

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I heard that Islam was a made-up religion to diminish the increasing faith in Christ at that time. Any discussion on this?

I believe such information came partly from Dr.Alberto Rivera though there might have been many people's contributions.
Roman Catholic had bothered quite a lot with Donatists in Northern Africa as they were like Baptists today and their believers were so many that they overwhelmed RCC in North Africa, and RCC had the cherished dream to move their head quarters from
Rome to Jerusalem.
Therefore Vatican wanted to create another Branch or Division of Babylonian Religion in the Middle East and was seeking a competent and young man to implement this mission, who was to be chosen by a Catholic widow, Khadija.
Kjadija was a rich, devout Catholic. She hired Muhammad as a shopkeeper and later both married together. She was 41 year old and Muhammad was 25 year old. Most of the Bible knowledge of Muhammad's was obtained from Khadija, I believe.
Later on, when Islam was expanded in North Africa, Donatists were eradicated by the Islamic brutal killings as RCC wished, but Jerusalem wasn't returned to RCC, different from their expectations. Therefore RCC waged the war with Islam thru the Crusade.
However, except the short occupation during the Crusade, Jerusalem couldn't be taken over by RCC.
Therefore Vatican has been eager to take over the Temple Mount all the time.
The attempts are still going on thru the Oslo Agreement I and II, and Vatican made the treaty on June 26, 2015 so that
Vatican recognized Palestine as a state, in turn, PLO conceded Temple Mount to Vatican free of charge, and Vatican promised
they will pressure Israel thru the Catholic countries and EU so that they may make Jerusalem as an international city.
Then Vatican will take over the Temple Mount so that the Pope may sit and stand there as the Vicar of God ( 2 Thess 2:4-6, Matthew 24:15)
The cherished desire of Vatican to move their HQ to Jerusalem will be accomplished but the Anti-Christ will be struck and thrown into the Lake of Fire as we read Rev 19:20

We are living in a dramatic era.

Eliyahu
 

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Islam is being brought down by Lord Jesus now as never before, as we have shown by historical and textual evidences that Mecca was n t oldest city, as there was NO known record of it ever existing until 741 AD, Muhammed may not even had been a real historical person, and if he was, was centuries later made into Muhammed the Myth, and the Koran itself never ever had just a single original version, as there were many Arabic versions, and today have 37 Arabic ones, over 93000 differences between them!

We don't have to waste much time with the Islam but should know how to confront them and what are the key contradictions of their own claims.
Islamic documents disprove themselves and prove that they are the people of the fake religion.
For example, Muhammad was never holy or merciful as he had 40 slaves, 28 male slaves 12 female slaves. One of them got pregnant by him. Muhammad made his adopted son Zeid divorce his wife and he himself married her, which is contrary to Leviticus 18:15.
Even if Muhammad married 9 wives and 13 concubines, he may have raped hundreds of women after killing their husbands or fathers.
This false religion must be exposed as much as possible even before the coming of Lord Jesus Christ


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We don't have to waste much time with the Islam but should know how to confront them and what are the key contradictions of their own claims.
Islamic documents disprove themselves and prove that they are the people of the fake religion.
For example, Muhammad was never holy or merciful as he had 40 slaves, 28 male slaves 12 female slaves. One of them got pregnant by him. Muhammad made his adopted son Zeid divorce his wife and he himself married her, which is contrary to Leviticus 18:15.
Even if Muhammad married 9 wives and 13 concubines, he may have raped hundreds of women after killing their husbands or fathers.
This false religion must be exposed as much as possible even before the coming of Lord Jesus Christ


Eliyahu
I have yet to have any Muslim point out to me any area where Muhammed was superior to Jesus, as even their own Koran calls Jesus messiah, Sinless, Holy, word of God, creator, and healer miracle worker
 

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I have yet to have any Muslim point out to me any area where Muhammed was superior to Jesus, as even their own Koran calls Jesus messiah, Sinless, Holy, word of God, creator, and healer miracle worker

Some of the differences between Allah and God of Christianity are :
1) Allah has no Son, but our God has the Son, Jesus
2) Allah is gracious, merciful, kind, forgiving the sinners as long as anyone comes to him
God of Christianity is gracious, merciful, kind, but forgives None, without punishing his or her sins and crimes.

3) Therefore Jesus Christ came to this world in order to carry the sins of the world and was punished for the sins of the world by His death and paid the full price for the sins by His own Blood. Whosoever believes in Him is forgiven by virtue of His Blood.
This is the Truth of Redemption. In Islam, there is no Redemption. Everyone must take the responsibility for his or her own sins
In Christianity the Redemption Truth is the most important.
4) Allah is said to be a singular god and Muslims often attack Trinity, but Allah calls himself " we" all the time in Quran
5) Christians call God, our Father, but Muslims don't call our father but call him Allah.
6) God showed up thru many prophets, but Allah showed up only thru Muhammad during the short period
7) Allah hired an illiterate man, Muhammad, who couldn't read or write Arabic, while God hired many prophets who are literate.
If God of Christianity needed to hire Muhammad as His Prophet, He would have taught the language first

Quran mentions Jesus in Quran, ch 4, and describe him as the son of Mary. That's what Muhammad learned from his wife or his grandpa. We can tell much ignorance about Jesus by Muhammad.
Islam and RCC can get along quite well as they worship the same father, the Devil as we read John 8:44


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Some of the differences between Allah and God of Christianity are :
1) Allah has no Son, but our God has the Son, Jesus
2) Allah is gracious, merciful, kind, forgiving the sinners as long as anyone comes to him
God of Christianity is gracious, merciful, kind, but forgives None, without punishing his or her sins and crimes.

3) Therefore Jesus Christ came to this world in order to carry the sins of the world and was punished for the sins of the world by His death and paid the full price for the sins by His own Blood. Whosoever believes in Him is forgiven by virtue of His Blood.
This is the Truth of Redemption. In Islam, there is no Redemption. Everyone must take the responsibility for his or her own sins
In Christianity the Redemption Truth is the most important.
4) Allah is said to be a singular god and Muslims often attack Trinity, but Allah calls himself " we" all the time in Quran
5) Christians call God, our Father, but Muslims don't call our father but call him Allah.
6) God showed up thru many prophets, but Allah showed up only thru Muhammad during the short period
7) Allah hired an illiterate man, Muhammad, who couldn't read or write Arabic, while God hired many prophets who are literate.
If God of Christianity needed to hire Muhammad as His Prophet, He would have taught the language first

Quran mentions Jesus in Quran, ch 4, and describe him as the son of Mary. That's what Muhammad learned from his wife or his grandpa. We can tell much ignorance about Jesus by Muhammad.
Islam and RCC can get along quite well as they worship the same father, the Devil as we read John 8:44


Eliyahu
I have yet to see any Muslim answer how the Koran is eternal, not created, and yet not be a part of Allah?
 

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I believe such information came partly from Dr.Alberto Rivera though there might have been many people's contributions.
Roman Catholic had bothered quite a lot with Donatists in Northern Africa as they were like Baptists today and their believers were so many that they overwhelmed RCC in North Africa, and RCC had the cherished dream to move their head quarters from
Rome to Jerusalem.
Therefore Vatican wanted to create another Branch or Division of Babylonian Religion in the Middle East and was seeking a competent and young man to implement this mission, who was to be chosen by a Catholic widow, Khadija.
Kjadija was a rich, devout Catholic. She hired Muhammad as a shopkeeper and later both married together. She was 41 year old and Muhammad was 25 year old. Most of the Bible knowledge of Muhammad's was obtained from Khadija, I believe.
Later on, when Islam was expanded in North Africa, Donatists were eradicated by the Islamic brutal killings as RCC wished, but Jerusalem wasn't returned to RCC, different from their expectations. Therefore RCC waged the war with Islam thru the Crusade.
However, except the short occupation during the Crusade, Jerusalem couldn't be taken over by RCC.
Therefore Vatican has been eager to take over the Temple Mount all the time.
The attempts are still going on thru the Oslo Agreement I and II, and Vatican made the treaty on June 26, 2015 so that
Vatican recognized Palestine as a state, in turn, PLO conceded Temple Mount to Vatican free of charge, and Vatican promised
they will pressure Israel thru the Catholic countries and EU so that they may make Jerusalem as an international city.
Then Vatican will take over the Temple Mount so that the Pope may sit and stand there as the Vicar of God ( 2 Thess 2:4-6, Matthew 24:15)
The cherished desire of Vatican to move their HQ to Jerusalem will be accomplished but the Anti-Christ will be struck and thrown into the Lake of Fire as we read Rev 19:20

We are living in a dramatic era.

Eliyahu

I heard the same story. Is there any infiltration of Pharisaical Jews in this process?
 

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I heard the same story. Is there any infiltration of Pharisaical Jews in this process?

I think Muhammad was influenced by the Arabic Infancy Gospel instead of any Pharises.

The Arabic Infancy Gospel

Infancy Gospel reflected some Apocrypha and the Gnosis idea.

Muhammad entered Medina as a refugee, then 5 years later, he butchered most of the male Jews and made their women his and his people's sex slaves.
I think Muhammad had 40 slaves, 28 male 12 female, one of the female slave got pregnant by him.
Muhammad charged 1/5 of the slaves for himself after conquering the towns and villages.
Ali, the forefather of Shia Muslim, was the son-in-law of Muhammad, and he was a slave trader and became 5th Caliph.
Muhammad conquered the big Jewish town Medina in 627 and another Jewish town Kaibar in 629.
So, he could have obtained lots of Jewish books from there.
Islam is quite close to RCC

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I think Muhammad was influenced by the Arabic Infancy Gospel instead of any Pharises.

The Arabic Infancy Gospel

Infancy Gospel reflected some Apocrypha and the Gnosis idea.

Muhammad entered Medina as a refugee, then 5 years later, he butchered most of the male Jews and made their women his and his people's sex slaves.
I think Muhammad had 40 slaves, 28 male 12 female, one of the female slave got pregnant by him.
Muhammad charged 1/5 of the slaves for himself after conquering the towns and villages.
Ali, the forefather of Shia Muslim, was the son-in-law of Muhammad, and he was a slave trader and became 5th Caliph.
Muhammad conquered the big Jewish town Medina in 627 and another Jewish town Kaibar in 629.
So, he could have obtained lots of Jewish books from there.
Islam is quite close to RCC

Eliyahu
Thanks Eliyahu for this information! It's very sad to see the fate of Christians/Believers (and Jews) in the hands of Islam provoked by RCC.
 

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Thanks Eliyahu for this information! It's very sad to see the fate of Christians/Believers (and Jews) in the hands of Islam provoked by RCC.

Thanks.
In summary, Muhammad died of the poison in the food inserted by a Jewish Woman Zaynab,
Allah didn't inform Muhammad in advance that the lamb chops had the poison, nor knew Muhammad his food contained the poison either which apparently disqualified his title Prophet.
Muhammad cried a lot appealing about the extreme pain saying that the pain is like having his aorta cut off, but Allah never responded to him.
If Allah didn't warn his prophet about the poison in advance and never responded to his prophet about the pain, how could the average plain Muslims expect the help from their god Allah for their better lives.
In other words, we can reasonably conclude that Allah is an imaginary god created by the imagination in the head of Muhammad.
After his death, Allah never appeared any more, as far as I know, It may because Allah is not the true God but a god created by the human imagination.

Today, many Muslim refugees don't like to go to Islamic countries but to Non-Muslim countries.
Also, Islamic countries don't like to accept the Muslim refugees, but Saudi Arabia proposed Germany that they would provide
the money when they build Mosques. They don't take Islamic refugees into their own country.
None of the 57 Islamic countries enjoy the Freedom, Democracy, Prosperity, Peace.
The people of the world must know how Muhammad died, why Allah didn't respond to Muhammad.


Eliyahu
 
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